Friday, 2 May 2014

Comments on Isaiah 65: Response to Angel Lawin

Here is an article that I needed to get done on Isaiah 65 and this is a response to an Eranoite by the name of Angel Lawin, who has written rebuttals to some of my materials.... with little to no success in refuting me and this article is nothing new.

Here is what he said:
"Friends, here is how BOBO benett interpreted what God said in Isaiah 65:21-22
They will build houses and dwell in them;
they will plant vineyards and eat their fruit.
22 No longer will they build houses and others live in them,
or plant and others eat.
For as the days of a tree,
so will be the days of my people;
my chosen ones will long enjoy
the work of their hands.
Isaiah 65:21-22 NIV
Before we read BOBO's explanation, take note that what God said in Isaiah 65:21-22 as explained by the man whose mouth God had put His words, the prophet like Moses, Maestro Evangelista- is that it does not speak of a coming afterlife in "Heaven" but about a bountiful and healthy life here on earth.
Now Bobo's explanation in answeringjudaism blogspot was this:
"Where's the problem with farming occuring in heaven? Adam himself tended to fruit and vegetables in a perfect world in Eden, so why wouldn't there be agriculture in heaven? The same with constructing houses. The earth is going to be restored to the way God intended it, along with having the human race worshipping him for all eternity. Heaven is not going to be a Sunday service singing a chorus umpteen times, there will be other things to do in the presence of the Lord. Even Isaiah 11, a messianic passage, speaks on man "beating his sword into plowshares and his spears into pruning hooks", which would entail a certain usage in heaven. We wouldn't need food to survive in heaven, but certainly meals may be conducted to glorify him."
With what BOBO said, it is understandable that he speaks of an afterlife in heaven that in heaven-people will still build houses, plant trees.
But reading the WORD of GOD in Isaiah 65:20 we can read that it never speaks of an eternal life in heaven but mankind living in peace, prosperity and righteousness here on earth.
"Never again will there be in it 
an infant who lives but a few days, 
or an old man who does not live out his years; 
he who dies at a hundred 
will be thought a mere youth; 
he who fails to reach a hundred 
will be considered accursed. 
Isaiah 65:20 (NIV)
This is the life full of blessing; longer life, and no more diseases and plagues. Bountiful and healthy city.
Question- when it says ""Never again will there be in it 
an infant who lives but a few days, 
or an old man who does not live out his years; " 
Does it mean an eternal life in heaven as BOBO preaches?
a healthy long life here on earth where people look forward to rest in peace in a good old age?
Take note- when he preaches about eternal life it means no more death but why in Isaiah 65:20 God said that people will live and die in a good old age? Does eternal life all this time mean you will die in a good age as religions preach?
What can you say now about what's inside of BOBO's head when he said that in heaven-people will still build houses- wow then it means there is also a hardware store? Then it also means there is a bidding for contractors to build houses in heaven? 
LOL and ROFL (rolling on the floor laughing)"

Here is what Lawin failed to quote in the article he responded to:
"The passage not only has a future application, but also refers to a restoration of Israel in the present time. Also, Daniel whom I mentioned earlier, has revealed to him the resurrection of the dead along with those rising to eternal life and those to eternal contempt. And God was the one who sent an angel to reveal this to Daniel. So God actually confirms my point, not Erano's or Lawin's:"

Isaiah 65:20 refers to what will transpire with respect to the restoration of Israel. In the historical context, Isaiah 65 speaks of Israel being restored to it's former glory which it had lost through it's endorsement of idolatry and immorality but there are certain aspects that are not carried over into the afterlife when we die. For example we needn't expect to look forward to a long life because we have something better, eternal life.

Of course Lawin won't accept the explanation considering he blindly believes anything and everything that Erano says without question.

Deuteronomy 13 gives a sober warning to those who are enticed into idolatry or Avodah Zara (alien worship):
"Deuteronomy 13:1 [a]If a prophet, or one who foretells by dreams, appears among you and announces to you a sign or wonder, 2 and if the sign or wonder spoken of takes place, and the prophet says, “Let us follow other gods” (gods you have not known) “and let us worship them,” 3 you must not listen to the words of that prophet or dreamer. The Lord your God is testing you to find out whether you love him with all your heart and with all your soul. 4 It is the Lord your God you must follow, and him you must revere. Keep his commands and obey him; serve him and hold fast to him. 5 That prophet or dreamer must be put to death for inciting rebellion against the Lord your God, who brought you out of Egypt and redeemed you from the land of slavery. That prophet or dreamer tried to turn you from the way the Lord your God commanded you to follow. You must purge the evil from among you."

I suggest that Erano's followers heed this warning from GOD, not me, but GOD and what HE said in Deuteronomy 13. Before anyone tries to say Jesus is refuted by the passage, I have already written on this passage in two articles that can be found here:

Thanks for reading.

Answering Judaism.

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