Wednesday 9 April 2014

Exposing Eranoites... Yet Again 2

More arguments are being tackled in this paper. Shall we dive in?

According to BOBO:

"The New Israel are the Jews who put their faith and trust in Jesus Christ. Israel and the Church will be saved through Jesus Christ and his redemptive work on the cross". 

Let us read again what God said in Zechariah 13:9

This third I will put into the fire; I will refine them like silver
and test them like gold. They will call on my name 
and I will answer them; I will say, ‘They are my people,’
and they will say, ‘The Lord is our God. ’”
Zechariah 13:9 (NIV)
The people who will call on the Name of God will be called the People of God.

God said that He will call His people those who will call on His Name- Where did God say in the said verse that He will consider you His people you call on His brutally Killed "Son?"

Once again BOBO, you have been found to be intellectually bankrupt and stupid. You are committing blasphemy to the basest degree because you are insisting that the people worship the man whom God has forsaken for them to be God's people when that is not what God said in Zechariah 13:9.

More than that. since God said that He will call those who call on His Name as His people then it follows that the one whom those people will learn of God's name will be those who heeded His word in Deut.18:18-19 to listen to His prophet like Moses as God said that the said prophet will be the one whose mouth He will put His words and will send to speak in His Name."

The quotation from the article I wrote which can be found here:

The text in THAT article I was referring to Isaiah 41, NOT to Zechariah 13:9. I said about Zechariah 13 in a different article here:
"It is meaningless of Erano to use the passages he quoted because they are NOT speaking on what the prophet like Moses' nature actually is. Deuteronomy 18 DOES refer to the Israelites having a prophet coming from THEM, not from Arabs, not from Europeans, Africans or Asians and certainly NOT from the Philippines, thus Erano is NOT the prophet like Moses. Even appealing to those passages do not help him because Deuteronomy 18 has physical Israel in mind, not a spiritual Israel which both the TANAKH and the NT do not teach. Both Hosea 2:23 and Zechariah 13:9 speak of Israel's restoration back to YHWH and possibly bringing in the Gentiles into future reconciliation, not by becoming Israel or replacing it, but being grafted into the olive tree. So again, Erano's points are nothing but smokescreen and ad hoc eisegesis."

"No where in the Bible does it say the Jewish people are forfeited to be the covenant people of God because of disobedience. That is a patristric invention, not scriptural teaching. The Jews are still God's people yes, but they need Jesus to save them from sin and hellfire.

Furthermore, it's your inference that Jesus was forsaken by God rather than what the Bible actually teaches.

"So how can you speak about the name of God with so much authority when you are not even the said prophet whom God had sent to speak in His Name? 

And if you are not the said prophet then what you say is not true- ALL that you have written in your kiddie blog about the word of God is not true because it is not God who had sent you nor had put His words in your mouth!"

You assume Erano is the prophet like Moses but you don't actually prove it, you and your friends simply say "Oh you haven't read the entire website and understood it". What does that prove?

"How can Jesus also be the said prophet as your apostles claimed when they were already found wrong in what they claimed that God sent Jesus to die for their sins

II Samuel 7:14 (NIV)

Did the said floggings happened to Jesus? Yes

Was Jesus part of the prophecy in this verse- Yes as written in Luke 1:31-32

So why did God have Jesus flogged as based on the said prophecy?

And what did you say about 2 Samuel 7:14? Read your links? 

Again you did not understand you retard.

The one who explained how Jesus was part of 2 Samuel 7:12-14 was the man who has proved he is the prophet like Moses in Deut.18:18-19 with his revelation of God's name from scripture to scripture without having studied the Bible, therefore it is God who had put His words in His mouth and thus the person we should only listen to when it comes to the word of God."

Again, the curse in 2 Samuel 7:14 doesn't apply to Jesus, because he didn't sin according to the very NT you quote and Erano quotes. You still HAVEN'T addressed the verse or the commentator I quoted, you simply ignore it and repeat the claims of your prophet. This article still refutes you:

You assume Erano is the prophet like Moses rather than demonstrate it. Show me in the scripture where he is, because I have demonstrated he is NOT there as the prophet in Deuteronomy 18.

"While you say you are not the prophet.

Thus you cannot insist your own interpretation against Maestro Evangelista because you are not a prophet THEREFORE GOD DID NOT PUT HIS WORDS IN YOUR MOUTH NOR HAD SENT YOU TO EXPLAIN HIS WORDS!

The mere fact that God said about His prophet that "I will put my words in His mouth" only means that when it comes to His words God is the one who will teach His chosen one on what to say, God never said that we should listen to people like you who will study His word.

I already showed Erano doesn't fit into Deuteronomy 18, furthermore, Why should I accept your prophet's interpretation of scripture? He is not in Deuteronomy 18, that's his claim and it's refuted by the Bible he quotes to establish himself as said prophet. Dismissal is not a rebuttal.

"Not only that, you are now found as a false preacher and a false shepherd:

Read what God had destined upon people like you:

Weep and wail, you shepherds; roll in the dust,
you leaders of the flock. For your time to be slaughtered
has come; you will fall and be shattered like fine pottery.
Jeremiah 25:34 (NIV)

“Weep and wail, you shepherds; roll in the dust, you leaders of the flock” -The next event will be God’s judgment upon the religious leaders. People will realize that the reason why God does not answer their prayers (to stop these disasters) is that they were made to call on false names (attributed to God) by these religious leaders.

“For your time to be slaughtered has come” -The leaders of the religions will be judged by the people because of the great deception they have done to the whole world. They made the people call on the false names of their made up god.

For these religious leaders to be spared from being slaughtered by the people (they had deceived) on that day -they should listen to what the prophet (like Moses), Maestro Evangelista has revealed and admit their deception to the peoples of the world."

While the initial context refers to judgement coming upon the Israelites, there is a sober warning here against Christians who dare go down the same route the Israelites did, but is not a condemnation of all Israelites and all Christians, only the wicked ones or those who claim to be Christians and Israelites when they are not. Judgement happens if one walks away from God and apostatizes or even if they call on the name of false Gods, which a true Christian will not do if they are going to remain faithful to YHWH.

Contra what Lawin says, It is Erano who is deceiving his followers and trying to deceive the world, not the true church who desire to know God's truth and apply it.

"Will the leaders of the religions escape the wrath of God?

The shepherds will have nowhere to flee, the leaders of the flock
no place to escape. Hear the cry of the shepherds, the wailing of
the leaders of the flock, for the LORD is destroying their pasture.
Jeremiah 25:35-36 (NIV)

“The shepherds will have nowhere to flee,” - because they had deceived the whole world with their preaching. Where can they escape when they had made themselves popular enough to be easily hunted down by the people they have deceived with their false teachings?

Do not wait for the people to crucify you like what happened to Jesus because you are now found to have committed a greater iniquity than Jesus- you made people worship the man punished by God. Thus the reason why the world is under God's curse all this time as written in Deut.11:28"

This covers Deuteronomy 11:28:

Once again the passage only condemns false shepherds, not true shepherds who have love for the flock and desire to protect them from harm.

"In the case of Maestro Evangelista, we have witnessed by reading carefully all his revelations, the said word of God in Deut.18:18-19 that He will put His words in His prophet's mouth to speak about His Name, which means the chosen one will not study the scriptures, He will be taught by God. Maestro Evangelista's revelations about the name of God proved he is the man.

Sorry kid, your ambition of becoming an apologist for the Jews has now been thrown to the trash can. Again do not wait for that time where people will drag you down the streets for the false god you have preached.

More to come to smash your head"

Nonsense, The prophet would know the scriptures. The prophets that came after Moses would be familiar with the Torah as well as later prophets being familiar with some of the writings of the Nev'im or Prophets.

Yes Moses was be taught by God, but how does this pertain to Deuteronomy 18? Let me remind you what it refers to:
"the prophet like Moses is not limited to one individual and it culminates in Christ being the ultimate fulfillment of the prophecy, not some Gentile from a distant land who is centuries removed from the time of Christ."

Also, Why would knowing the scriptures or not knowing them be the criteria of the prophet like Moses? It's an irrelevant criteria that is not laid out in the TANAKH.

Anyway, that's another paper done and dusted.

Answering Judaism.

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