Now for another article dealing with Lawin's objections.
"Let us also read his self –defeating explanation of his reasoning about Isaiah 65:20 in the link: http://answering-judaism.blogspot.com/2014/05/comments-on-isaiah-65-response-to-angel.html
I said :Take note- when he preaches about eternal life it means no more death but why in Isaiah 65:20 God said that people will live and die in a good old age? Does eternal life all this time mean you will die in a good age as religions preach?
What can you say now about what's inside of BOBO's head when he said that in heaven-people will still build houses- wow then it means there is also a hardware store? Then it also means there is a bidding for contractors to build houses in heaven?
LOL and ROFL (rolling on the floor laughing)"
This is nothing more than mockery on the part of Lawin. I am not going to even bother answering the question about hardware stores. My response regarding Isaiah 65:20 is quoted by Lawin in his paper.
"BOBO’s desperate response is:
Here is what Lawin failed to quote in the article he responded to:
"The passage not only has a future application, but also refers to a restoration of Israel in the present time. Also, Daniel whom I mentioned earlier, has revealed to him the resurrection of the dead along with those rising to eternal life and those to eternal contempt. And God was the one who sent an angel to reveal this to Daniel. So God actually confirms my point, not Erano's or Lawin's: http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Daniel+12&version=NIV"
Isaiah 65:20 refers to what will transpire with respect to the restoration of Israel. In the historical context, Isaiah 65 speaks of Israel being restored to it's former glory which it had lost through it's endorsement of idolatry and immorality but there are certain aspects that are not carried over into the afterlife when we die. For example we needn't expect to look forward to a long life because we have something better, eternal life.
Of course Lawin won't accept the explanation considering he blindly believes anything and everything that Erano says without question.
My answer To Bobo:
Whatever you say, the death blow we dealt with you concerning Isaiah 65:20 still stands because it speaks about the coming blessing of God about a long life here on Earth and not about a fictitious afterlife. You are just trying to wiggle out of your wrong explanation earlier in which you said:
"Where's the problem with farming occuring in heaven? Adam himself tended to fruit and vegetables in a perfect world in Eden, so why wouldn't there be agriculture in heaven? The same with constructing houses. The earth is going to be restored to the way God intended it, along with having the human race worshipping him for all eternity. Heaven is not going to be a Sunday service singing a chorus umpteen times, there will be other things to do in the presence of the Lord. Even Isaiah 11, a messianic passage, speaks on man "beating his sword into plowshares and his spears into pruning hooks", which would entail a certain usage in heaven. We wouldn't need food to survive in heaven, but certainly meals may be conducted to glorify him."
Now let us read what was written in Isaiah 65:17-21
17 “For behold, I create new heavens and a new earth;And the former shall not be remembered or come to mind.18 But be glad and rejoice forever in what I create;For behold, I create Jerusalem as a rejoicing,And her people a joy.19 I will rejoice in Jerusalem,And joy in My people;The voice of weeping shall no longer be heard in her,Nor the voice of crying.
20 “No more shall an infant from there live but a few days,Nor an old man who has not fulfilled his days;For the child shall die one hundred years old,But the sinner being one hundred years old shall be accursed.
Isaiah 65:17-21 NKJV
Now BOBO, let me ask you, when it is written "“No more shall an infant from there live but a few days,Nor an old man who has not fulfilled his days;For the child shall die one hundred years old,But the sinner being one hundred years old shall be accursed." Does it speak about a literal eternal life in heaven or a long life here on earth? If it is a long life here on Earth then it follows that there is no afterlife to be expected.
If you insist that the said prophecy speaks about Israel's restoration, You mean that the Jews alone in Israel in the middle East will have a very long life and not other people from other nations? What a twisted explanation you have just made!"
There is no wriggling out of anything and again I reiterate, The passage NOT ONLY has a future application, but ALSO, not in contradiction to, refers to a restoration of Israel in the present time. Daniel whom I mentioned earlier, has revealed to him the resurrection of the dead along with those rising to eternal life and those to eternal contempt. And God was the one who sent an angel to reveal this to Daniel. So God actually confirms my point, not Erano's or Lawin's: http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Daniel+12&version=NIV
Isaiah 65:20 refers to what will transpire with respect to the restoration of Israel. In the historical context, Isaiah 65 speaks of Israel being restored to it's former glory which it had lost through it's endorsement of idolatry and immorality but there are certain aspects that are not carried over into the afterlife when we die. For example we needn't expect to look forward to a long life because we have something better, eternal life.
In the historical context Israel can look forward to a long life on this earth and AFTER THEY DIE, can look forward to eternal joy in heaven with YHWH. My argument was not disregarding Gentiles, they were not relevant to the point I was making about the historical context of the passage.
You still have Daniel to tackle, which is part of the very TANAKH you and your prophet have been using when making your assertions. You making a death blow Lawin? Hardly, all you have done is make your sword blunt.
"Of course why I should follow your explanation? Are you the prophet whom God spoke about in Deut.18:18-19 that I should listen to what you say about God? You are not the promised prophet nor it is Jesus, so whatever you explain are all lies and not the truth that God wants us to know about His word.
If you are not the said prophet then you cannot say that God confirms your deceitful explanations about His word because it is just your own, it is not God who put His words in your mouth to make such explanations.
What was written in Deut.13 applies to Jesus and you. Jesus suffered the brutal death spoken in it and no matter how you refute it, it is still nothing. You are not a prophet remember? You are just an idiot whose dream of becoming an apologist to the Jews was made trash by the revelation of the real prophet of God, Maestro Evangelista.
The warning from God which was written in Deut.13 :1-6 is not for us-it is for you, add to it the warning of God written in Deut.18:18-19 to people like you who chose not to listen to His real prophet like Moses. It is not us who preach a different God-it is you as you preach that the man Jesus who was punished by God with the beatings of men for his own wrong is a god. You are the one who’s making such blasphemous writings about God. As a matter of fact, you just made the worse explanation when you preached that God is the man whom Jacob wrestled with in Genesis 32 :24-29 when in truth it is not God but His angel as confirmed in Hosea 12:2-4.
Tsk, Tsk, What a liar you really are, BOBO Benett. LOL"
I never claimed to be the prophet like Moses anyway, let alone a prophet, BUT, What you cannot even hold into your mind is that IT DOESN'T PROVE ERANO TO BE THE PROPHET LIKE MOSES. YOU ARE ASSUMING WHAT YOU HAVE YET TO PROVE!!
Deuteronomy 13 DOESN'T apply to Jesus because his death was not for misleading the people, his death was to bring atonement via his vicarious suffering on the cross and he couldn't take the penalty if he wasn't sinless. The very NT you and Erano quote REFUTE YOU!!
For reading about the angel of the LORD, read the previous article:
The reason Deuteronomy 13 doesn't refute me is simple. If Christ rose from the dead, his claims to deity are thus confirmed, as well as his Messiahship. Furthermore, He claims to be YHWH, though he is not the Father in heaven and prays to the Father in heaven. Erano by contrast is a false prophet who contradicts the TANAKH and the New Testament and thus can be dismissed as a false prophet with ZERO credibility.
Hence my arguments on Deuteronomy 13 STILL stand:
http://answering-judaism.blogspot.co.uk/2014/01/deuteronomy-13-question-of-vindication.html
http://answering-judaism.blogspot.co.uk/2014/03/deuteronomy-13-question-of-vindication-2.html
Though Erano claims to proclaim the God of the Bible, his doctrine is falsified BY the Bible.
Furthermore, continually saying "If you are not the said prophet then you cannot say that God confirms your deceitful explanations about His word because it is just your own, it is not God who put His words in your mouth to make such explanations." is NOT A REBUTTAL, It's a dismissal. A dismissal is NOT a rebuttal. This is nothing but rhetoric and doesn't address the arguments I raise.
Hope this article has been a blessing to those seeking the truth.
Answering Judaism.
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