Thursday, 19 June 2014

Response to Erano: A look at the END OF LAWLESSNESS AND EVIL 3

More arguments for me to tackle made by Erano
"“I will raise up for them a prophet like you”– Here, God speaks to His prophet Mosesabout sending prophet like him (Moses). We all know that Moses is the prophet whom God had given His covenant.  Since God said that He will send a prophet like Moses, He means that will send another prophet who will enlighten us about the laws or the covenant that God gave Moses long ago. The prophet mentioned by God to Moses is the messenger of the covenant that God spoke about in Malachi 3:1!
 
“I will put my words in his mouth, and he will tell them everything I command him." - This is why no Pastor, Apologist or Theologian can stand against him (Messenger) when he appears because it is God Himself who has commanded him to reveal this truth, (especially about Jesus),in the Bible!
 
The religious preachers’ understanding of the word of God is through their own study.  It is not God who sent them.  In the case of the prophet like Moses or Messenger of the covenant, it isGod who taught him and had sent him to make these revelations.
 
“If anyone does not listen to my words that the prophetspeaks in my name,”- This is the sign that it is God who had indeed taught Maestro Evangelista.  This is the revelation of the Name of God.
 
“I myself will call him to account.” - God will call into account those people who will not listen to His prophet like Moses on what His prophet speaks about His Name through the scriptures."
Any one can claim to be a prophet, but that doesn't make them a prophet. It doesn't matter if the prophet's miracles come true. If he is teaching false doctrine or leads man into false worship and false gods, he is not to be accepted as mentioned in Deuteronomy 13, A point I have stressed in some of my materials:

"Deuteronomy 13:1 [a]If a prophet, or one who foretells by dreams, appears among you and announces to you a sign or wonder, 2 and if the sign or wonder spoken of takes place, and the prophet says, “Let us follow other gods” (gods you have not known) “and let us worship them,” 3 you must not listen to the words of that prophet or dreamer. The Lord your God is testing you to find out whether you love him with all your heart and with all your soul. 4 It is the Lord your God you must follow, and him you must revere. Keep his commands and obey him; serve him and hold fast to him. 5 That prophet or dreamer must be put to death for inciting rebellion against the Lord your God, who brought you out of Egypt and redeemed you from the land of slavery. That prophet or dreamer tried to turn you from the way the Lord your God commanded you to follow. You must purge the evil from among you.""

And no Deuteronomy 13 doesn't refute Jesus if anyone reading this wants to raise that point. The text is addressed here:
http://answering-judaism.blogspot.co.uk/2014/01/deuteronomy-13-question-of-vindication.html
http://answering-judaism.blogspot.co.uk/2014/03/deuteronomy-13-question-of-vindication-2.html

Point is, I can speak against Erano as much as I want and his dismissal is not a rebuttal, considering again, the onus of proof is ON HIM, NOT ME to prove he is a prophet.

Jeremiah 44 and Isaiah 14 is addressed here in these papers:
http://answering-judaism.blogspot.co.uk/2014/02/an-examination-of-prophecy-of-good_28.html
http://answering-judaism.blogspot.co.uk/2014/01/how-erano-evangelista-deceived-humanity.html

"With the revelation why the name YHWH (along with its variations, Yahweh and Jehovah) is not the name of God (because God punished the Jews and even swore to Himself that they may not invoke His Name), we can now understand why God said to Moses the following words when Moses asked about His Name:

Let us read that particular event:

And God said, “I will be with you. And this will be the sign to you that it is I who have sent you: When you have brought the people out of Egypt, you will worship God on this mountain.” Moses said to God, “Suppose I go to the Israelites and say to them, ‘The God of your fathers has sent me to you,’ and they ask me, ‘What is his name?’ Then what shall I tell them?” God said to Moses, “I AM WHO I AM. This is what you are to say to the Israelites: ‘I AM has sent me to you.’”
Exodus 3:12-14(NIV)

We can read that Moses’ only mission is to take his people out of Egypt.  When he asked for permission to say the Name of God, Moses can only say “I AM”, if the Children of Israel asks him about the Name of God.

The reason why God said to Moses to say “I AM” when the Children of Israel asks him about the Name of God (instead of revealing His name directly) is that God had already made an oath to Himself (that the Jews may not invoke His Name as punishment for their false worship) when they were still in Egypt. The words “I AM” is not the Name but a key or clue for the Israelites to know the Name of God."

YHWH is the name of God, Erano has no theological or scholarly material to refute that assertion, All he has a "prophetic" musings. I AM isn't a name but is one of YHWH's titles. Watch Sam Shamoun's material on the I AM phrase:
Sam Shamoun on John 8:58 and Exodus 3:14 section 1
http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLF7qgivEmRdcDQXcqikIECVtUWngOpBeE
Sam Shamoun on John 8:58 and Exodus 3:14 section 2
http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLF7qgivEmRdfXPplZk9kyo-7HInJZh1Or

Here are also thoughts I have on the phrase Ego Eimi:
http://answering-judaism.blogspot.co.uk/2013/10/before-abraham-was-born-i-am-quick.html

"Does Moses know the Name of God?

Moses and Aaron were among his priests,
Samuel was among those who called on his name;
they called on the Lord and He answered them.
Psalm 99:6 NIV

“Moses and Aaron were among his priests, Samuel was among those who called on his name” - Moses truly knows the Name.  However, since he is a Jew (and because of what God said in Jeremiah 44:24-26), he was not allowed by God to mention His name directly to the people.

How do we know that the former prophets of God were not allowed by God to mention His Name directly to their fellow Jews?

The Sovereign LORD has sworn by himself-the LORD God Almighty declares: "I abhor the pride of Jacob and detest his fortresses; I will deliver up the city and everything in it." If ten men are left in one house, they too will die. 10 And if a relative who is to burn the bodies comes to carry them out of the house and asks anyone still hiding there, "Is anyone with you?" and he says, "No," then he will say, "Hush! We must not mention the name of the LORD."
Amos 6:8-10 NIV

“The Sovereign LORD has sworn by himself” – When God makes an oath - it will surely happen and the prophets should strictly abide by God’s word.

"I abhor the pride of Jacob and detest his fortresses; I will deliver up the city and everything in it." –because the Children of Jacob, the one whom God gave the name Israel, are found to be always disobedient to God and His laws

“We must not mention the name of the LORD.” - This proves that the former prophets, since they are Jews, cannot mention God’s name directly because of God’s oath."

This covers Jeremiah 44 again: http://answering-judaism.blogspot.co.uk/2014/02/an-examination-of-prophecy-of-good_28.html.

Amos 6 is talking about Jacob's pride and YHWH bringing them down into exile as a result of disobedience, it has no connection to the oath made in Jeremiah 44.
"8 The Sovereign Lord has sworn by himself—the Lord God Almighty declares:

“I abhor the pride of Jacob
    and detest his fortresses;
I will deliver up the city
    and everything in it.”
9 If ten people are left in one house, they too will die. 10 And if the relative who comes to carry the bodies out of the house to burn them[a] asks anyone who might be hiding there, “Is anyone else with you?” and he says, “No,” then he will go on to say, “Hush! We must not mention the name of the Lord.”

11 For the Lord has given the command,
    and he will smash the great house into pieces
    and the small house into bits.
12 Do horses run on the rocky crags?
    Does one plow the sea[b] with oxen?
But you have turned justice into poison
    and the fruit of righteousness into bitterness—
13 you who rejoice in the conquest of Lo Debar[c]
    and say, “Did we not take Karnaim[d] by our own strength?”
14 For the Lord God Almighty declares,
    “I will stir up a nation against you, Israel,
that will oppress you all the way
    from Lebo Hamath to the valley of the Arabah.”"

God is going to bring destruction onto the people of Judah for their sin and send them away for a time, this doesn't mean they cannot utter God's name, that is rank eisegesis on the part of Erano.

"The problem is they did not pay attention to what God said. Therefore, it is no longer God’s fault why they did not know His Name.

Is it true that they never paid attention to what God said to them?

when I brought your forefathers out of Egypt and spoke to them, I did
not just give them commands about burnt offerings and sacrifices, but I gave
them this command: Obey me, and I will be your God and you will be my people.
Walk in all the ways I command you that it may go well with you.
Jeremiah 7:22-23 NIV

“but I gave them this command: Obey me, and I will be your God and you will be my people. Walk in all the ways I command you that it may go well with you”. –When God brought the Israelites out of Egypt, they are not yet truly considered by God as His people because they still have to prove to God that they were faithful to His laws.  Once they have proven themselves to have obeyed God’s laws, then God will consider them as His people."

The Israelites are still God's chosen people regardless of their unbelief, but that doesn't mean they automatically have salvation, they only will have salvation if they come to faith in Jesus and be cleansed of their sins. Read the following on this topic: http://answering-judaism.blogspot.co.uk/2014/05/is-supercessionism-true-response-to.html

While the Israelites may have abandoned God, that doesn't mean he has abandoned them and he shall thus restore them to greatness.

"How do we know that even though they were still in their sojourn in Egypt, the people of Israel angered God with their idol worship?

‘But they rebelled against me and would not listen to me; they did not get rid of the vile images they had set their eyes on, nor did they forsake the idols of Egypt. So I said I would pour out my wrath on them and spend my anger against them in Egypt. But for the sake of my name, I brought them out of Egypt. I did it to keep my name from being profaned in the eyes of the nations among whom they lived and in whose sight I had revealed myself to the Israelites.
Ezekiel 20:8-9 NIV

“nor did they forsake the idols of Egypt. So I said I would pour out my wrath on them and spend my anger against them in Egypt.” - God confirms through His prophet Ezekiel that even during the time that the people of Israel were still in Egypt they were already worshiping false gods and goddesses.

This includes the worship of the queen of heaven that the prophet Jeremiah spoke of (Jeremiah 44:24-26).  They rebelled against Him even during their sojourn in Egypt. Since they did what they did, they were cursed by God that (Jews) may never mention His Name."

Need I repeat myself on the abuse of Jeremiah 44:24-26? Absolutely not so let us move on.

"Why did God do that to them

“‘I did it to keep my name from being profaned in the eyes of the nations among whom they lived’” – Just as God has kept His Name from being profaned by the nations, God also showed us how he kept His Name from being profaned by the idolatry of His own people by putting a curse that they may never invoke His name.

What is the use of telling His people His Name if they do not worship Him? God will only provide the opportunity for profaning His own name!

Why did God repeat the punishment that He rendered to the Israelites during their sojourn in Egypt in the time of the prophet Jeremiah?

15Whatever is has already been, and what will be has been before;
and God will call the past to account
Ecclesiastes 3:15 NIV

“Whatever is has already been” - When the Israelites in Jeremiah’s time repeated the same sins of worshiping other gods (just as their forefathers did during their sojourn in Egypt), God conferred the same punishment upon the Jews.

The Jews do not know the story because they were cursed by God that they may not invoke His Name.  Thus, the knowledge of the true Name of God was taken from their memory. Their non-knowledge is proof of how true God’s oath to Himself is.

The reason why we are now aware of this is that the promised prophet of God(whom He had sent to speak in His Name) or His real messenger of the Covenant has now come in our present era."

NOT EVERY SINGLE JEW WAS CURSED IN JEREMIAH 44, ONLY THOSE IN EGYPT!!, How many times must I repeat myself OVER AND OVER. AND AGAIN, the reason the Jews don't pronounce God's name is OUT OF RESPECT, NOT SOME PAST CURSE PLACED ON A GROUP OF JEWS.

Erano again begs the question, he claims to be the prophet like Moses and claims to be unassailable just simply because of his own musings. Plus I have already dealt with Malachi 3 in this article here:
http://answering-judaism.blogspot.co.uk/2014/06/refuting-erano-false-prophet-on-malachi.html

"Jesus’ mission of completing King Solomon’s unfinished task in 2 Samuel 7:12-14 to make his people Israel know the Name of God (through the House built by King Solomon) is very important. He was the Jewish people’s last hope for them to know God’s Name and call on it.  When they do, God will forgive them from their sins, hear their prayers for salvation from their enemies and their race to be truly called the people Israel of God.

But, behold what Jesus had done!

18 Whoever believes in him is not condemned, but whoever does not believe stands condemned already because he has not believed in the name of God's one and only Son.
John 3:18 NIV

“because he has not believed in the name of God's one and only Son” - Instead of making known the Name of God to his people so that God may finally forgive them, he preaches that they should worship his name, thus portraying himself as a god!

This is why Jesus is not the Messenger of the covenant in Malachi 3:1-2 because he never made known the Name of God, but rather made the people disregard it."

One, Jesus called people back to the Father in heaven. Two, The Father Mark 9:7 said "This is my beloved son, LISTEN TO HIM.". Three, Jesus is YHWH though he is not the Father in heaven.
2 Samuel is covered in these two articles:
http://answering-judaism.blogspot.co.uk/2014/01/how-erano-evangelista-deceived-humanity.html
http://answering-judaism.blogspot.co.uk/2014/03/an-examination-of-prophecy-of-good.html

Deuteronomy 11:26-28 and 28:58-61 are also addressed here: http://answering-judaism.blogspot.co.uk/2014/03/for-angel-lawin-eranoite.html.

More arguments will be addressed in another article if the Lord Wills.

Answering Judaism.

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