Sunday 8 December 2013

Where Sherry Shriner Went Wrong: The Deception of the Ages 4

This is another article taking a look Sherri Shriner's article. I won't be looking at the Illuminati or the Blue Beam project because I am not interested in them at this time.

"Most people who dig into the history of religions have it completely backwards. No surprise. But the truth is out there for those who seek it from the Lord. When Adam and Eve fell, the only hope mankind had was to be redeemed. And from the time of the fall, Yahweh knew what He would do to redeem it.

  
      Adam was told how mankind would be redeemed. That the Messiah was to be born of a virgin to become, the Lord of the Covenant, the ‘Lamb slain from the foundation of the world’, who was to die and be in the grave for three days and then be resurrected. Adam knew the attributes of God and His plan of salvation and was told all this by God Himself and it was his bounded duty to pass it on verbally to all his offspring, and they on to theirs, so that by the time of the Assyrians, all these gospel truths were well known. Abraham knew them all well!


  
      Hasn't it always stood true that God will do nothing lest He reveal it unto His servants the prophets’. . Amos 3:7?


     We know Satan heard Yahweh's plan of redemption for mankind as He revealed it to Adam. Because he set about to prepare the biggest counterfeits he could come up with to negate Yahweh's plans! Satan had plenty of time to prepare, and put into motion the best counterfeits he could come up with, so that when the real messiah did come, no one would recognize Him for the real Messiah that He was.

     It was the pagan cult of mystery that became a complete and blatant counterfeit piece of work that Satan had perfected in substituting the  ‘son of the sun-god’, Mithra, for our Lord and Savior the Lord Jesus Christ, the only true Lord of light and truth, the only true Mediator, and the only true God of the Holy Covenant. It was truly one great counterfeit job, and the results are still with us to this day."

I am still waiting for a source to show how Mithra replaced Jesus Christ, no such thing happened. Satan does counterfeit the real thing there is no question about that. Adam and Eve were told about the Messiah bruising Satan's head in Genesis 3:15, I don't think there is any disagreement there. However, Satan was not aware that Jesus would be a vicarious atonement for our sins, quite to the contrary he was ignorant of that mission until Jesus showed up on the scene. Adam and Eve may have been sub consciously aware, but certainly not Satan. It was after the death and resurrection that he realised he made a mistake and has since then tried to correct what he did. Well, we know that God's plan of redemption was and is and is going to be successful.

I don't doubt that there is elements of truth from YHWH that Gentiles are aware of, but later corrupted those truths with paganism, such as blood sacrifice, which was ordained by God as atonement and later used in pagan worship, even vampire religion. The Jews were given the truth as to why the blood was actually given, to make atonement for them.

Again, While you can claim Mithra copied from Christ, his story differs tremendously from Christ as already demonstrated here: http://answering-judaism.blogspot.co.uk/2013/12/where-sherry-shriner-went-wrong_4.html

"Today there are many who claim Jesus Yahushua was a copy of Mithra when it is the other way around. It was Mithra who was created and set up through every pagan religion throughout the nations to mimmick what Yahweh would do.

      This mimmickry has traveled through the ages into even our churches of today. It never went anywhere, just disguised itself and assimilated as the Jesus of the Bible into our churches. Are they really worshipping Yahushua?

       What does the Bible call today's churches? MYSTERY, BABYLON THE GREAT , THE MOTHER OF HARLOTS AND ABOMINATIONS OF THE EARTH. (Rev. 17:5). Babylon is America, harlots are the churches. They have prostituted the truth for lies.

     If you are worshiping the Jesus of the churches, you are worshipping another Savior. If you are celebrating the traditions and dogma of the churches today you are worshipping another gospel. How can I say this? Because God is the same yesterday, today, and forever. And if you are not following the example both He and His Apostles set, then you are not following HIM. If you are not celebrating His feasts, keeping His Torah laws and observing His commandments you are not HIS but the clever counterfeit of the ages himself, deceptive Mithra i.e. Lucifer."

How is Mithra involved in every pagan nation and getting them to mimic what YHWH would do? You already misrepresented the Buddhists, not that I defend Buddhism, after it is a religion of idolatry. Again, there is NO NT command where GENTILES are told to observe the feasts of the Torah, You cannot find it in the NT ANYWHERE, even in Matthew 5:17-20 which is misused and misapplied by so many. Again the feast arguments are addressed in these articles:
http://answering-judaism.blogspot.co.uk/2013/12/where-sherry-shriner-went-wrong_4.html
http://answering-judaism.blogspot.co.uk/2013/11/observance-of-torah-demanded-of-gentiles.html

Though America is not Babylon, it certainly is running itself into the ground with it's depravity.

"Most churches today justify Pauline teachings as to why they believe what they do. Paul was a false apostle. And when you realize that everything changes. You can get back into the truth of what faith in Yahweh really is instead of the lies you've been spoon fed from Paul. The law never ended, sure the cumbersome aspects of it were replaced and nullified, but there’s more to the law than most realize. They simple claim the law was replaced by grace and sweep it under the rug without realizing it’s Yahweh Himself they’re sweeping under the rug. Jesus fulfilled the law He didn’t cancel it or replace it with Pauline doctrines.

    There was no stop in God's plan for mankind. In the Book of Revelation it even says that in the New Jerusalem people will be celebrating the feasts. So why aren't you now? Why is the majority of churchianity following Mithra traditions and feasts rather than Yahweh's?"

The feasts and the traditions of YHWH will be observed in the Millennial reign, not while Christ has not come again yet. Though Revelation doesn't speak of the feasts themselves, the TANAKH certainly does, such as in Zechariah 14.
"16 Then the survivors from all the nations that have attacked Jerusalem will go up year after year to worship the King, the Lord Almighty, and to celebrate the Festival of Tabernacles. 17 If any of the peoples of the earth do not go up to Jerusalem to worship the King, the Lord Almighty, they will have no rain. 18 If the Egyptian people do not go up and take part, they will have no rain. The Lord[b] will bring on them the plague he inflicts on the nations that do not go up to celebrate the Festival of Tabernacles. 19 This will be the punishment of Egypt and the punishment of all the nations that do not go up to celebrate the Festival of Tabernacles.

20 On that day holy to the Lord will be inscribed on the bells of the horses, and the cooking pots in the Lord’s house will be like the sacred bowls in front of the altar. 21 Every pot in Jerusalem and Judah will be holy to the Lord Almighty, and all who come to sacrifice will take some of the pots and cook in them. And on that day there will no longer be a Canaanite[c] in the house of the Lord Almighty."

Some Rabbinic Jews, though deniers of Yeshua's Messiahship, affirm that Zechariah 14 is messianic in nature. In fact one Jewish fellow, Limitbreak9001, when I asked him, he said that it was and hasn't been fulfilled yet, and if it was, I would be celebrating Sukkot or the Feast of Tabernacles with him. I believe the feasts will be done in the Millennial reign, not while Christ hasn't returned. No problem here Shriner.

Jesus did fulfill the Law yes, but that doesn't mean that Paul came along to replace what he taught. The opposite is true, the apostles would be guided into all the truth and Paul was deemed reliable by the apostles. I recommend Shriner and everyone reading my responses to Yisroel Blumenthal on "Supplements to Contra Brown" where he raises issues against Paul:
http://answering-judaism.blogspot.co.uk/2013/10/response-to-yisroel-blumenthal-on-acts.html
http://answering-judaism.blogspot.co.uk/2013/10/pauline-conspiracy-examining-claims-of.html
http://answering-judaism.blogspot.co.uk/2013/10/pauline-conspiracy-examining-claims-of_30.html
http://answering-judaism.blogspot.co.uk/2013/10/pauline-conspiracy-examining-claims-of_31.html
Also Jesus taught grace, Paul never replaced anything with grace. Any claim that Jesus and Paul were teaching different things, is a ridiculous notion and fantasy.

"What's been lost is for people to question why they believe what they do. They follow church after church instead of just seeking Yahweh Himself. They blindly accept what their pastors and leaders tell them because it's just what they've done all their lives and to think otherwise goes against the brainwashing of the religious establishment. The fear of questioning is put into them instead of following the commands to be Berean and search the Scriptures for ourselves. You can't protect yourself from error if you don't seek Yahweh Himself for the truth. Man should never replace Him. To place your pastor as your teacher instead of Yahweh you are bordering on idolatry. Because we are to seek Him, not man.

      We have gone from generation to generation in Spiritual limbo because man has replaced Yahweh in every church. Doctrines, theologies and ideologies, have all replaced HIM."

What an insulting generalisation, I DON'T accept EVERYTHING my pastor says, In fact I don't take every point I hear to be straight fact. In fact, There are conclusions I think that some have come too I don't agree with, like Zelophehad's daughters. The common arguments used from Numbers 27 and 36 is that tribal lineage goes through the meal, which after listening to others, be they Rabbinic Jews or Christians and even a quotation from Eusebius with respect the the genealogies of Luke 3 and Matthew 1 where he says they are BOTH Joseph's geneology. This can be found in Chapter 7 Book 1 of Eusebius' Church History.

"10. Hence the genealogy traced through him will not be rendered void, which the evangelist Matthew in his enumeration gives thus: 'Jacob begat Joseph.' But Luke, on the other hand, says: 'Who was the son, as was supposed' (for this he also adds), 'of Joseph, the son of Eli, the son of Melchi'; for he could not more clearly express the generation according to law. And the expression 'he begat' he has omitted in his genealogical table up to the end, tracing the genealogy back to Adam the son of God. This interpretation is neither incapable of proof nor is it an idle conjecture."

Even Robert Gundry makes the observation that both geneologies are Joseph's:
""As it was supposed" therefore calls attention Jesus' divine sonship via a virginal conception and birth. Nevertheless, Luke traces Jesus' genealogy through Joseph because of LEGAL RIGHTS, such as the right to David's throne, passed through the Father though he was only a foster father. (Page 237 Robert H. Gundry Commentary on the New Testament)"

"One the other hand, this passage explains how Jesus came to have the legal status of a descendant of David even though Joseph didn't father him: Joseph, himself a son [= a descendent] of David brought Jesus into David's line by taking Mary to wife prior to Jesus birth and by naming him at his birth(Page 3 Robert H. Gundry Commentary on the New Testament)".""

What is my point here?  I don't accept EVERY conclusion that comes along. There are many individuals who do that, but I don't like it when a group is painted with such a broad brush.

I am a Berean thank you very much Shriner, I believe in YHWH.

"No I am not messianic, or whatever title of religion there is out there. I hold no religious affiliation. My only affiliation is in Yahweh. The Messianics would do well to realize they don’t have to spend all their time trying to tell everyone “what Paul really meant” and just admit he was a false apostle. Then they wouldn’t have to waste so much of their time combating his contradictions.

      Mithraism never went anywhere. It is alive and well today. Most will embrace Mithra as the False Prophet when he arrives with the name of “Jesus and Maitreya.”  He will even look as the pictures of Jesus we’ve seen. He will mimmick and copy him so well it will be the deception of the ages to overcome. You’ve been forewarned. And the Beast Prophets in place today as pastors in our congregations and churches will embrace him and declare him as the son of God. And they will work in collusion with this False Prophet to deceive the world into worshipping the Antichrist as the Father, as God Himself.

       Most of the churches today are teaching false doctrines and being led by false shepherds.     
Get out of the deception. Get back into Yahweh."

I am still flabbergasted with some of the claims that Shriner makes, and the fact she doesn't provide a source for some of her claims makes me rather suspicious. Also, if I recall, Maitreya is some New Age concept. Anti-Christ might pretend to be that or the Madhi of Islam or what ever other religions are waiting for.

I wrote these articles responding to Shriner so that Messianics would not be deceived by her. The apostles approved of Paul's message as already demonstrated in my previous articles, If the church was deceived by Paul, then the apostles were also deceived by him and thus they are lost, hence the NT can't be trusted. That is the implication if we follow what this sorceress says about Paul.

Study what I have to say with the scriptures and I hope these articles have been a blessing to you guys.

Answering Judaism.

Addendum
Shriner cites Francis Legge, Homer Smith, Wolfgang Lederer, John Holland Smith, E.O. James and Salomon Reinach as her authorities. As to WHO they are, I need to check.

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