Monday, 19 August 2024

The Great Angel Hunt: A response to Yehuda Yisrael

A recent video by Yehuda Yisrael deals with the subject of the Angel of the LORD and essentially tries to deal with the Christian arguments that Jesus is that angel. This will not be like the last article in terms of structure and listing points but there are certainly a number of points that need to be addressed nevertheless. 

You can find the original video for context: A JEW DEBUNKS THE TRINITY! The BEST WAY to PROVE JESUS IS NOT G-D IN THE FLESH! ‪@LFTV‬ ‪@SOBEIT32AD‬

So let us get into the matter at hand.

Preface

Certainly the argument of could God appear in a shape has to be treaded very carefully (I admit this was something I have failed before at in the past.)

I say it has to be treaded carefully because too often, Christians "panic" for a lack of better term when challenged on the Trinity, the Deity of Jesus Christ etc. There is no need to panic.

When it comes to whether or not God could do this or that, that again has to be treaded carefully. 

To give an fictional example, let us use Doctor Who as an example and one of it's most famous concepts, regeneration, a Time Lord's ability to change their bodily form upon the death of an incarnation. The earliest example being the episode, "The Tenth Planet."

MrTardis in his review of "The Tenth Planet" wondered if the episode would have been nearly as memorable without the Cybermen and Regeneration ending but he acknowledged it was a reductionist way of looking at the episode as it has those things and is an iconic story for those reasons.

In other words, with the TANAKH and New Testament as real examples, we have to deal with what is written rather than hypotheticals of whether or not God could take the form of a man, a calf, a goat or as Tovia Singer mentions "a cottage cheese sandwich." which he obviously said that God wouldn't.

The question among Jews and Christians should not be "Could God become a man?", really it should be "Did God become a man?"

The contention is whether or not this actually happened or not is what will be discussed. Do forgive the jumping all over the place in this article.

The Three Deuteronomies

Though late in the video, Yehuda talks about bringing Christians to deal with these passages.

The passages that ought to be dealt with here are the three passages from Deuteronomy 4, 5 and 13 and with respect to Deuteronomy 13 particularly, I am somewhat disappointed that Yehuda has brought that passage as an argument to the table again but some arguments do need addressing more than once.

Deuteronomy 4:10 how on the day that you stood before the Lord your God at Horeb, the Lord said to me, ‘Gather the people to me, that I may let them hear my words, so that they may learn to fear me all the days that they live on the earth, and that they may teach their children so.’ 11 And you came near and stood at the foot of the mountain, while the mountain burned with fire to the heart of heaven, wrapped in darkness, cloud, and gloom. 12 Then the Lord spoke to you out of the midst of the fire. You heard the sound of words, but saw no form; there was only a voice. 13 And he declared to you his covenant, which he commanded you to perform, that is, the Ten Commandments,[b] and he wrote them on two tablets of stone. 14 And the Lord commanded me at that time to teach you statutes and rules, that you might do them in the land that you are going over to possess.

15 “Therefore watch yourselves very carefully. Since you saw no form on the day that the Lord spoke to you at Horeb out of the midst of the fire, 16 beware lest you act corruptly by making a carved image for yourselves, in the form of any figure, the likeness of male or female, 17 the likeness of any animal that is on the earth, the likeness of any winged bird that flies in the air, 18 the likeness of anything that creeps on the ground, the likeness of any fish that is in the water under the earth. 19 And beware lest you raise your eyes to heaven, and when you see the sun and the moon and the stars, all the host of heaven, you be drawn away and bow down to them and serve them, things that the Lord your God has allotted to all the peoples under the whole heaven. 20 But the Lord has taken you and brought you out of the iron furnace, out of Egypt, to be a people of his own inheritance, as you are this day.

Deuteronomy 4 as it appears does require a fair amount of unpacking.

There is a warning for all time not to make an image in anything and not even worship a man or a woman though create by God's hand.

However, the passage in question doesn’t preclude the idea of God appearing in visible shapes, be it Moses beholding the image of God or as found in Isaiah 6 when God is seated on the throne. The warning against idolatry still stands but the command doesn’t stop God appearing in a visible shape albeit temporarily, as he did that in Genesis 18 and Exodus 24. (More on the passages later.) It also doesn't suggest that God is promising never to appear in an incarnation down the line (Raised in the comments, not the video)

Deuteronomy 5 says the following, similarly to that of the previous chapter:

5 And Moses summoned all Israel and said to them, “Hear, O Israel, the statutes and the rules that I speak in your hearing today, and you shall learn them and be careful to do them. 2 The Lord our God made a covenant with us in Horeb. 3 Not with our fathers did the Lord make this covenant, but with us, who are all of us here alive today. 4 The Lord spoke with you face to face at the mountain, out of the midst of the fire, 5 while I stood between the Lord and you at that time, to declare to you the word of the Lord. For you were afraid because of the fire, and you did not go up into the mountain.

Once again it repeats the reference to the previous incident at Horeb and talks of the people talking to God intimately (Which is what face to face means, a valid point. which is found in Exodus 33:20, more on Exodus 33 later.)

The passages of Deuteronomy 4 and 5 (and 13) shouldn't be ignored as commandments and the point that Yehuda made is that the commandments of God take precedent over any appearances of the angels.

While a valid point, the commandments do not override and refute the Christian point of God appearing visibly as a man nor do they refute "The Great Angel Hunt" nor is it circular reasoning.

Moreover, it is not as simple as saying Jesus is not a manmade creation as Yehuda mentions the fact that Adam himself was not a man made creation (as with the sun and the stars.) which he is right in pointing out the rashness in the argument made.

However, When Jesus' deity is properly argued for, There is no justification for the worship of the sky, sun, moon, stars and other things as verse 19 is also an exhortation not to bow down to them. Rightly It is not bowing to idols only that is forbidden, but also bowing down to what is in the sky and the seas below. Even in the book of Revelation, John bows to an angel and this is what he is told.

Revelation 22:6 And he said to me, “These words are trustworthy and true. And the Lord, the God of the spirits of the prophets, has sent his angel to show his servants what must soon take place.”

7 “And behold, I am coming soon. Blessed is the one who keeps the words of the prophecy of this book.”

8 I, John, am the one who heard and saw these things. And when I heard and saw them, I fell down to worship at the feet of the angel who showed them to me, 9 but he said to me, “You must not do that! I am a fellow servant with you and your brothers the prophets, and with those who keep the words of this book. Worship God.

Even in the New Testament, heavenly bodies and even the angels and ordinary men cannot and must not be worshiped.

Does this refute Jesus being the Angel of the Lord? No. 

As for Deuteronomy 13, we read the following:

13 “If a prophet or a dreamer of dreams arises among you and gives you a sign or a wonder, 2 and the sign or wonder that he tells you comes to pass, and if he says, ‘Let us go after other gods,’ which you have not known, ‘and let us serve them,’ 3 you shall not listen to the words of that prophet or that dreamer of dreams. For the Lord your God is testing you, to know whether you love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul. 4 You shall walk after the Lord your God and fear him and keep his commandments and obey his voice, and you shall serve him and hold fast to him. 5 But that prophet or that dreamer of dreams shall be put to death, because he has taught rebellion against the Lord your God, who brought you out of the land of Egypt and redeemed you out of the house of slavery, to make you leave the way in which the Lord your God commanded you to walk. So you shall purge the evil[a] from your midst.

6 “If your brother, the son of your mother, or your son or your daughter or the wife you embrace[b] or your friend who is as your own soul entices you secretly, saying, ‘Let us go and serve other gods,’ which neither you nor your fathers have known, 7 some of the gods of the peoples who are around you, whether near you or far off from you, from the one end of the earth to the other, 8 you shall not yield to him or listen to him, nor shall your eye pity him, nor shall you spare him, nor shall you conceal him. 9 But you shall kill him. Your hand shall be first against him to put him to death, and afterward the hand of all the people. 10 You shall stone him to death with stones, because he sought to draw you away from the Lord your God, who brought you out of the land of Egypt, out of the house of slavery. 11 And all Israel shall hear and fear and never again do any such wickedness as this among you.

The point brought to the table by Yehuda is this:

"Abraham never prayed to Jesus, Moses never prayed to Jesus, none of these prophets the TANAKH ever prayed to Jesus so Jesus falls into the the category of other gods who Israel has not known. Even if he resurrected himself from the dead which obviously I don't believe but even if that was the case, it would still put Jesus in that category of being another god who Israel has not known and therefore you're to reject that prophet because they are not a true prophet, Resurrection or not, it makes no difference."

I'm sorry but the resurrection does make a difference as I have explained to you in the past and this is an opportunity to dive into that.

First, I agree miracles prove nothing about the genuineness of a prophet for even false prophets can do mighty works.

To highlight a point within Christian circles, John MacArthur raised this concern in his book Strange Fire with respect to Deuteronomy 13:

"The New Testament is relentless in echoing that same warning. Anyone who claims to speak for God while simultaneously leading people away from the truth of God's Word is clearly shown to be a false prophet and a deceiver. Even if such a person makes accurate predictions or performs supposed wonders, he is to be disregarded-since Satan himself is able to perform counterfeit miracles (cf. 2 Thess 2:9)" (John MacArthur, Strange Fire, Pg 107)."

He points out and is correct that even a false prophet can proclaim the name of God and still be condemned if the doctrine he brings is unbiblical and speaks also on the immorality accompanying said prophet.

Resurrection however unlike other miracles is a unique miracle in it's own category.

A prophet who was raised from the dead is an example of God confirming the prophet, his words, his deeds and teachings to be true and vindicating his claims. In the passage of Deuteronomy 13, resurrection of a prophet who had previously died is not treated as a grounds for rejecting a prophet. If anything, a death with no resurrection until the end of days is the nail in the coffin for the prophet. 

If Jesus was a false prophet, There is also no reason to think that God is still testing people by raising him from the dead to see whether he is followed or not, that would be nothing more than a cruel cosmic prank, so the only conclusion is that the resurrection really happened as God confirming the message.

Furthermore, As I have said in my response to Yisroel Blumenthal: 

The people of Israel would not have needed Jesus to be explicitly seen at Mt Sinai in order for the Christian position to be valid, the main criteria for that would be if Jesus himself told the truth and his claims of himself were accurate, especially the claims he made that no creature could make, which would be blasphemy if Jesus was a mere creature. (https://answering-judaism.blogspot.com/2024/07/what-of-jeremiah-1011-response-to-rabbi.html

Now as as far as Abraham and Moses were concerned, they were worshipping Ha Shem but them not knowing Jesus directly would not mean Jesus is a separate God that the people have not known, they just simply were not aware of the Triunity of the Godhead as we are now. A lack of awareness of Jesus does not suggest he is a strange god.

The Trinity to be reiterated here teaches there is one eternal God, but this one God exists as Three Divine Persons, The Father, The Son (Who Jesus is) and The Holy Spirit which as James White has noted was revealed in the incarnation of Jesus and the outpouring of the Holy Spirit.

The resurrection would not only vindicate Jesus, but lends credibility to the Trinity as well.

Furthermore, Jesus doesn't tell the Israelites or the Jews of his day to worship other gods, on the contrary, he calls his people back to the God of Israel, even going so far as to call out the Pharisees for essentially binding the people to traditions of men rather than keeping the commandments of God. So Jesus once again doesn't fall into calling people to "Serve other gods, gods you have not known."

Lest anyone (though the argument wasn't used by Yehuda but this is a preemptive response) think that Mormonism or Islam or any cult group after Christianity can logically be true as a result of the arguments I have been making, the argument of Avodah Zara against Christianity doesn't work.

Muhammad failed this, Joseph Smith failed this and certainly Balaam would have failed this. If Jesus rose from the dead, he ends up being vindicated and having the Father’s stamp of approval. If anyone wants to say it proves nothing, there is no evidence in the TANAKH, even in Deuteronomy 13 that the same false prophet would be raised later to test the people, it simply wouldn’t happen.

If Jesus' claims in the New Testament are false, then this argument could hold some weight.

If Jesus' claims in the New Testament are true, you have no choice but to accept him as Ha Shem, specifically the Second Person of the Trinity, no ifs, no buts.

The Angel of the Lord "Inconsistencies"

Courtesy of Sam Shamoun who was very helpful in this a decade ago, I had written articles on the Angel of the Lord. In PMs on Paltalk, he was instrumental in arguing a solid case for the Angel of the Lord.

https://answering-judaism.blogspot.com/2013/10/the-angel-of-lord.html

https://answering-judaism.blogspot.com/2013/10/more-on-angel-of-lord.html

https://answering-judaism.blogspot.com/2013/10/even-more-on-deity-of-christ-and-angel.html

https://answering-judaism.blogspot.com/2014/07/some-more-on-deity-of-christ-and-angel.html

Are we Christians being inconsistent on the subject of this? Are we being inconsistent on the subject of the Angel of the LORD and do we have to logically say that Isaiah and Moses are God? No.

To begin with and reiterate a comment made in Contra Blumenthal, While you are free in the matter to suggest that the angel is a representative, this wouldn't undercut Jesus being God and appearing to the people as an angel functionally. 

Jesus is Ha Shem, but he is not the Father, however this wouldn't detract from the fact he can function as the Father's agent or his representative. It's one member of the Trinity speaking on behalf of another, like in the examples that were given by Yehuda himself where a representative can speak on God's behalf. If Jesus himself is Ha Shem, then he is worthy of the devotion that is given to God, considering he is in nature God (Philippians 2:5-11) but is a distinct person from the Father. If however he is not God, I think Jews and Christians already know the answer to that one.

Funnily enough in the first article on the Angel of the Lord above and although it has not been recorded, I actually did have a small discussion with Yehuda on the text at least a decade ago.

I will post both Chabad.org's translation AND the ESV and you can read Genesis 18 and 19 for yourself:

Chabad: 

https://www.chabad.org/library/bible_cdo/aid/8213

https://www.chabad.org/library/bible_cdo/aid/8214

Bible Gateway ESV: 

https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Genesis%2018&version=ESV

https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Genesis%2019&version=ESV

As to whether or not we have a consistent standard to identify the Angel of the LORD as God, that is easy. Not every single occurrence of the Angel of the LORD is God, Furthermore, it is important to remember that even though the Angel of the LORD speaks on behalf of the LORD, that is not what makes him God, it's when someone, identifies himself as such.

Jesus didn't exist as a man before man existed. He didn't take on flesh until 2000 or so years ago. Jesus appeared to Jacob in the form of a man (more on that point), it was temporary and wasn't a true incarnation. It's not until the time of the NT that he had a physical body.

With regards to Genesis 18, There is a difference between taking on flesh and taking on appearance of a man. The angels appeared as men (and are described as men) in Genesis 18, but we know they aren't men. 

Although I have said the above regarding Jesus and Jacob and the following: Likewise, Jesus appeared to Jacob, but only appeared as a man, rather than have a true incarnation centuries later. There is some contention with this passage and I would encourage you to reading the original comments, lest I be accused of being inconsistent.

Some of my original wording has been brought here with some changes.

It has been argued that Jacob wrestled with a mere angel based on the word Elohim by Yehuda and others. Why do I say that? The word Elohim can be used of mighty men, angels, judges, kings and false gods and doesn't always refer to the true God. This is true, context determines the meaning. 

The contention with the passage is the assertion of whether or not the angel Jacob is did he wrestle with God or did he wrestle with a mere angel. 

In Jacob's own words, he says he saw God and lived even if he didn't see the glory of God. He didn't see God's glory obviously if we take this to mean Jacob wrestled with God.

If it is a mere "Elohim" or angel, that is a valid reading of the text. At the end of the day, either side has some validity to their interpretation, even with Hosea 12:4-5 interpreted as a mere angel sent on Ha Shem's behalf.

Regardless of the position you take on Hosea 12, it would not refute other theophanies that occur elsewhere.

But going back to Genesis, One of the angels in Genesis 18-19 doesn't head down to Sodom and Gomorrah, the other two go down there, hence one of the men or angels who appeared to Abraham is God, who stayed with Abraham and spoke with him. The two men were angels ontologically, whereas Christ functioned as an angel.

Two of the men go down to Sodom and Gomorrah but one doesn't and stays near Abraham, then leaves after the conversation. Obviously, angels and prophets are not synonymous with God, however my claim is that there is a particular angel in the TANAKH who functions as an angel, but is in nature God.

Let's take a look at Isaiah 7:10-14:

"6 “Let us invade Judah; let us tear it apart and divide it among ourselves, and make the son of Tabeel king over it.” 7 Yet this is what the Sovereign Lord says:

“‘It will not take place,

    it will not happen,

8 for the head of Aram is Damascus,

    and the head of Damascus is only Rezin.

Within sixty-five years

    Ephraim will be too shattered to be a people.

9 The head of Ephraim is Samaria,

    and the head of Samaria is only Remaliah’s son.

If you do not stand firm in your faith,

    you will not stand at all.’”

10 Again the Lord spoke to Ahaz, 11 “Ask the Lord your God for a sign, whether in the deepest depths or in the highest heights.”

12 But Ahaz said, “I will not ask; I will not put the Lord to the test.”

13 Then Isaiah said, “Hear now, you house of David! Is it not enough to try the patience of humans? Will you try the patience of my God also? 14 Therefore the Lord himself will give you[c] a sign: The virgin[d] will conceive and give birth to a son, and[e] will call him Immanuel.[f]"

Isaiah does function as an agent but this is a different context to Genesis 18, since Isaiah himself isn't being identified as God, but in the context of Genesis 18, The angel is identified as God explicitly and Abraham even stood before him and talked with him as a regular person. 

Isaiah was merely used as a mouthpiece to convey the words of God to Ahaz and tell him what will transpired. These are two different contexts and do not refute Jesus being the angel of YHWH, nor do they prove that Isaiah is synonymous with God himself. There isn't inconsistency or lack of consistency here.

The same that was said of Isaiah also applies to Moses in the context of Deuteronomy 29 with the latter being used as the mouthpiece of God:
"29 [a] These are the words of the covenant that the Lord commanded Moses to make with the people of Israel in the land of Moab, besides the covenant that he had made with them at Horeb.

2 [b] And Moses summoned all Israel and said to them: “You have seen all that the Lord did before your eyes in the land of Egypt, to Pharaoh and to all his servants and to all his land, 3 the great trials that your eyes saw, the signs, and those great wonders. 4 But to this day the Lord has not given you a heart to understand or eyes to see or ears to hear. 5 I have led you forty years in the wilderness. Your clothes have not worn out on you, and your sandals have not worn off your feet. 6 You have not eaten bread, and you have not drunk wine or strong drink, that you may know that I am the Lord your God. 7 And when you came to this place, Sihon the king of Heshbon and Og the king of Bashan came out against us to battle, but we defeated them. 8 We took their land and gave it for an inheritance to the Reubenites, the Gadites, and the half-tribe of the Manassites. 9 Therefore keep the words of this covenant and do them, that you may prosper[c] in all that you do."

Once again, Moses was the mouthpiece to convey the words of God rather than the identification as God.

Now let's take a look at Exodus 3:1-6

"3 Now Moses was tending the flock of Jethro his father-in-law, the priest of Midian, and he led the flock to the far side of the wilderness and came to Horeb, the mountain of God. 2 There the angel of the Lord appeared to him in flames of fire from within a bush. Moses saw that though the bush was on fire it did not burn up. 3 So Moses thought, “I will go over and see this strange sight—why the bush does not burn up.”
4 When the Lord saw that he had gone over to look, God called to him from within the bush, “Moses! Moses!”
And Moses said, “Here I am.”
5 “Do not come any closer,” God said. “Take off your sandals, for the place where you are standing is holy ground.” 6 Then he said, “I am the God of your father,[a] the God of Abraham, the God of Isaac and the God of Jacob.” At this, Moses hid his face, because he was afraid to look at God."

So we also know back in Exodus 3 the Angel of the LORD appears to Moses in the Bush, yet the text later on says God called to him from within the Bush. This isn't a mere agent speaking like Isaiah or Moses, this angel is Ha Shem himself. The Trinity is the way to reconcile this.

Seeing one's glory and yet living

Let us look at Exodus 33:
7 Now Moses used to take the tent and pitch it outside the camp, far off from the camp, and he called it the tent of meeting. And everyone who sought the Lord would go out to the tent of meeting, which was outside the camp. 8 Whenever Moses went out to the tent, all the people would rise up, and each would stand at his tent door, and watch Moses until he had gone into the tent. 9 When Moses entered the tent, the pillar of cloud would descend and stand at the entrance of the tent, and the Lord[a] would speak with Moses. 10 And when all the people saw the pillar of cloud standing at the entrance of the tent, all the people would rise up and worship, each at his tent door. 11 Thus the Lord used to speak to Moses face to face, as a man speaks to his friend. When Moses turned again into the camp, his assistant Joshua the son of Nun, a young man, would not depart from the tent.

12 Moses said to the Lord, “See, you say to me, ‘Bring up this people,’ but you have not let me know whom you will send with me. Yet you have said, ‘I know you by name, and you have also found favor in my sight.’ 13 Now therefore, if I have found favor in your sight, please show me now your ways, that I may know you in order to find favor in your sight. Consider too that this nation is your people.” 14 And he said, “My presence will go with you, and I will give you rest.” 15 And he said to him, “If your presence will not go with me, do not bring us up from here. 16 For how shall it be known that I have found favor in your sight, I and your people? Is it not in your going with us, so that we are distinct, I and your people, from every other people on the face of the earth?”

17 And the Lord said to Moses, “This very thing that you have spoken I will do, for you have found favor in my sight, and I know you by name.” 18 Moses said, “Please show me your glory.” 19 And he said, “I will make all my goodness pass before you and will proclaim before you my name ‘The Lord.’ And I will be gracious to whom I will be gracious, and will show mercy on whom I will show mercy. 20 But,” he said, “you cannot see my face, for man shall not see me and live.” 21 And the Lord said, “Behold, there is a place by me where you shall stand on the rock, 22 and while my glory passes by I will put you in a cleft of the rock, and I will cover you with my hand until I have passed by. 23 Then I will take away my hand, and you shall see my back, but my face shall not be seen.”

The passage of seeing God yet living is not inconsistent when it comes to the Angel of the LORD being God. Moses wanted to see God in his full glory but God made it clear to Moses that he and the rest humanity cannot see God in his full glory though he is able to partially give us a glimpse of it and allows Moses to see that glimpse.

If we took the interpretation that Jacob did wrestle with God, does it make God a liar in Exodus 33:20? No it doesn't. All that demonstrates is a partial glimpse of the glory of God.

It is important to note that even if God didn't show himself in visible form to Israel at all, this wouldn't dent the Christian position at all.

Temunah
One of the arguments presented by Yehuda is the uniqueness of Moses regarding the image or Temunah of God and this I was first exposed to in a video raised in a response to Sam Shamoun (Found here: Demonstrating that G-d does not appear to Israel in ANY FORM. (Including man!) Sam Shamoun Debate

Some overlap with that video shall be included as it bares relevance to what Yehuda is talking about.

He goes to Numbers 12 and connects it to Exodus 33:

12 Miriam and Aaron spoke against Moses because of the Cushite woman whom he had married, for he had married a Cushite woman. 2 And they said, “Has the Lord indeed spoken only through Moses? Has he not spoken through us also?” And the Lord heard it. 3 Now the man Moses was very meek, more than all people who were on the face of the earth. 4 And suddenly the Lord said to Moses and to Aaron and Miriam, “Come out, you three, to the tent of meeting.” And the three of them came out. 5 And the Lord came down in a pillar of cloud and stood at the entrance of the tent and called Aaron and Miriam, and they both came forward. 6 And he said, “Hear my words: If there is a prophet among you, I the Lord make myself known to him in a vision; I speak with him in a dream. 7 Not so with my servant Moses. He is faithful in all my house. 8 With him I speak mouth to mouth, clearly, and not in riddles, and he beholds the form of the Lord. Why then were you not afraid to speak against my servant Moses?” 9 And the anger of the Lord was kindled against them, and he departed.

10 When the cloud removed from over the tent, behold, Miriam was leprous,[a] like snow. And Aaron turned toward Miriam, and behold, she was leprous. 11 And Aaron said to Moses, “Oh, my lord, do not punish us[b] because we have done foolishly and have sinned. 12 Let her not be as one dead, whose flesh is half eaten away when he comes out of his mother's womb.” 13 And Moses cried to the Lord, “O God, please heal her—please.” 14 But the Lord said to Moses, “If her father had but spit in her face, should she not be shamed seven days? Let her be shut outside the camp seven days, and after that she may be brought in again.” 15 So Miriam was shut outside the camp seven days, and the people did not set out on the march till Miriam was brought in again. 16 After that the people set out from Hazeroth, and camped in the wilderness of Paran.

According to Yehuda, only Moses is capable of seeing the Temunah and that when looking at the angels, including Exodus 24, the Israelites weren't seeing a physical image of God. It says in Numbers 12 that other prophets are spoken to in visions and dreams, not seeing God's physical image, only Moses, whatever that means, only Moses knows. But every other prophet in the TANAKH (Moses being the greatest and distinct relative to the others), whatever Jacob saw was not a literal God man entity or fleshy man God later revealed to be Jesus.

This argument doesn't help Yehuda's case in the slightest. You cannot disregard the idea of Jacob wrestling with God on that alone.

Furthermore, even in visions, a visible shape of God is seen, even though it was not the Temunah that Moses saw. Exodus 24 we shall look at:
24 Then he said to Moses, “Come up to the Lord, you and Aaron, Nadab, and Abihu, and seventy of the elders of Israel, and worship from afar. 2 Moses alone shall come near to the Lord, but the others shall not come near, and the people shall not come up with him.”

3 Moses came and told the people all the words of the Lord and all the rules.[a] And all the people answered with one voice and said, “All the words that the Lord has spoken we will do.” 4 And Moses wrote down all the words of the Lord. He rose early in the morning and built an altar at the foot of the mountain, and twelve pillars, according to the twelve tribes of Israel. 5 And he sent young men of the people of Israel, who offered burnt offerings and sacrificed peace offerings of oxen to the Lord. 6 And Moses took half of the blood and put it in basins, and half of the blood he threw against the altar. 7 Then he took the Book of the Covenant and read it in the hearing of the people. And they said, “All that the Lord has spoken we will do, and we will be obedient.” 8 And Moses took the blood and threw it on the people and said, “Behold the blood of the covenant that the Lord has made with you in accordance with all these words.”

9 Then Moses and Aaron, Nadab, and Abihu, and seventy of the elders of Israel went up, 10 and they saw the God of Israel. There was under his feet as it were a pavement of sapphire stone, like the very heaven for clearness. 11 And he did not lay his hand on the chief men of the people of Israel; they beheld God, and ate and drank.

12 The Lord said to Moses, “Come up to me on the mountain and wait there, that I may give you the tablets of stone, with the law and the commandment, which I have written for their instruction.” 13 So Moses rose with his assistant Joshua, and Moses went up into the mountain of God. 14 And he said to the elders, “Wait here for us until we return to you. And behold, Aaron and Hur are with you. Whoever has a dispute, let him go to them.”

15 Then Moses went up on the mountain, and the cloud covered the mountain. 16 The glory of the Lord dwelt on Mount Sinai, and the cloud covered it six days. And on the seventh day he called to Moses out of the midst of the cloud. 17 Now the appearance of the glory of the Lord was like a devouring fire on the top of the mountain in the sight of the people of Israel. 18 Moses entered the cloud and went up on the mountain. And Moses was on the mountain forty days and forty nights.

If Moses was the only one to see this, he is recording what he saw, if we go by the interpretation that is given by Yehuda.

The other points he makes deals with the fact Aaron did not have this experience of the temunah and what is happening in Exodus 24 is a vision. 

Once again, arguing it's a vision doesn't get around or deal with a visible shape being seen, even in the citing of Ezekiel 1:26 which is used as a comparison in the video response to Shamoun. Why do I bring this up?

The reason is in the response to Shamoun, Yehuda explains that the word raglaw doesn't necessarily refer to feet but to a foundation, as Passover, Sukkot (Feast of Tabernacles) and Weeks (Feast of First Fruits) are referred to as the Shalosh Regalim or the Three Feet and that it doesn't have to refer to physical feet.

In Strong's concordance, of the 32 occurrences of raglaw in the TANAKH, only 27 refer to feet, the context in each of those refer to physical feet, including Exodus 24:10: https://biblehub.com/hebrew/raglav_7272.htm

While I will not contest that raglaw doesn't always have to meet feet, the context of Exodus 24 makes it clear it is not referring to a foundation on the sapphire, hence Sam Shamoun's point about the feet stands.

Another one of the examples of Ha Shem's visibility is found as even Isaiah (some have argued he had a vision though David Pawson has argued is that it's not but I digress) in chapter 6 sees God sitting on his throne:

6 In the year that King Uzziah died I saw the Lord sitting upon a throne, high and lifted up; and the train[a] of his robe filled the temple. 2 Above him stood the seraphim. Each had six wings: with two he covered his face, and with two he covered his feet, and with two he flew. 3 And one called to another and said:
“Holy, holy, holy is the Lord of hosts;
the whole earth is full of his glory!”[b]
4 And the foundations of the thresholds shook at the voice of him who called, and the house was filled with smoke. 5 And I said: “Woe is me! For I am lost; for I am a man of unclean lips, and I dwell in the midst of a people of unclean lips; for my eyes have seen the King, the Lord of hosts!”
6 Then one of the seraphim flew to me, having in his hand a burning coal that he had taken with tongs from the altar. 7 And he touched my mouth and said: “Behold, this has touched your lips; your guilt is taken away, and your sin atoned for.”

Granted this reaction is specific due to the sin and immorality of Israel at the time whereas in Exodus 24 that was not the case, Isaiah's reaction to God even in a vision is a testament to the idea of God being seen in the visible shape. If a vision is enough to cause Isaiah to feel unclean in the presence of God, what does that tell you about God's holiness even veiled in this manner?

There was a lot to unpack but it was important to address the video nevertheless.

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