Monday, 2 December 2013

Where Sherry Shriner Went Wrong: The Deception of the Ages

I am going to call a spade a spade, Shriner is a deceiving lowlife that needs to be exposed. Normally in my writings I am trying to be as gracious as possible, but this woman will not get any mercy from me in this article.

I am determined to write this for the sake of my Messianic Jewish brothers and sisters so that they may not be lead astray by this sorceress' wiles and false tales about Paul.

Sadly, there are people in many "Christian" circles who reject Paul and call him a corrupter of Christianity, as do many outside the church. Those who have followed my blog are aware of my material dealing with Yisroel Blumenthal's problems with Paul, but it is also worth dealing with those who are causing division as Shriner is.

Here are the articles that deal with Yisroel Blumenthal's points regarding Paul: 
http://answering-judaism.blogspot.co.uk/2013/10/response-to-yisroel-blumenthal-on-acts.html
http://answering-judaism.blogspot.co.uk/2013/10/pauline-conspiracy-examining-claims-of.html
http://answering-judaism.blogspot.co.uk/2013/10/pauline-conspiracy-examining-claims-of_30.html
http://answering-judaism.blogspot.co.uk/2013/10/pauline-conspiracy-examining-claims-of_31.html

If you are interesting in the responses to Blumenthal generally, here are some more articles:
http://answering-judaism.blogspot.co.uk/2013/10/examination-of-some-arguments-raised-by.html
http://answering-judaism.blogspot.co.uk/2013/10/examination-of-some-arguments-raised-by_25.html
http://answering-judaism.blogspot.co.uk/2013/10/examination-of-some-arguments-raised-by_27.html
http://answering-judaism.blogspot.co.uk/2013/11/examination-of-some-arguments-raised-by.html
http://answering-judaism.blogspot.co.uk/2013/11/examination-of-some-arguments-raised-by_11.html

I don't believe in giving this woman a platform, so I will not link to the original article.

Let's begin our refutation.

"It was James who led the early Apostles and it was Peter upon whom the church would be built. Yet today you wouldn't know it or even think it. Walk into any assembly anywhere and the Pauline doctrines are dominant. Why does it matter? Because Peter and Paul are night and day. Peter was an apostle with a mantle from Yahweh to build His church, and he did, but the latter Pauline Christians rejected it and took over Christianity. Paul was a self-proclaimed apostle, whom the apostles rejected as an apostle, but accepted as a brother.

      There were blatant disagreements and arguments between Paul and the Apostles.  There were only 12 apostles, not 13. “And on the wall of the city had twelve foundations; and in them the names of the twelve apostles of the Lamb” Rev.21:14. In the beginning there were 12, and at the end there are 12. There never have been 13.  And it was Paul who created the offices of leadership to vilify himself as an apostle.

     When does the light go off that Paul was a wolf? How much information does anyone need that this self-proclaimed apostle was a snake?  Yahweh has not appointed an apostle since the twelve. Period. Even in the codes you will not find anyone as an apostle. Just prophets and watchmen. The office of apostle has been closed.

     After 300 years of persecutions, most of the apostolic doctrines had been destroyed and lost. They were ultimately replaced with little resistance from the newer believers with a compromise of Mithraic paganism that had been introduced by Paul. It took 300 years for Satan to destroy the early church and persecute Yahweh’s believers so he could implement his own strategy to infiltrate and overpower the church with himself. And he did it as Mithra, and through Mithraism."

Firstly, Peter would be the foundation on which the first was built to let in the Gentiles in. He was the first cornerstone, but obviously he was not coronated as Pope, which is a Catholic myth but that is another issue.

Now first of all, WHERE did the Pauline Christians reject Peter being the foundation and take over the church? Also, Paul was accepted not only as a brother, but also an apostle. His name not being on the walls of the city is not an argument against Paul at all. The apostles believe that Paul was entitled to lead the church just as they did.

Next, How can she claim that the apostolic teachings were destroyed or lost. This contradicts what Jesus said to the apostles.
"John 16:12 “I have much more to say to you, more than you can now bear. 13 But when he, the Spirit of truth, comes, he will guide you into all the truth. He will not speak on his own; he will speak only what he hears, and he will tell you what is yet to come. 14 He will glorify me because it is from me that he will receive what he will make known to you. 15 All that belongs to the Father is mine. That is why I said the Spirit will receive from me what he will make known to you.”"

Paul even himself made it clear that if anyone taught contrary to what the apostles had laid down, even if it was an apostle, that person was to be accursed, which can be found in Galatians 1:8-9. Also, If the apostolic teachings were to disappear, then Matthew 16 is false, because Jesus would say that even the gates of hell would not overcome his church, the true church. If Shriner is right, Jesus is wrong. Also, she goes on a rant and tirade about Mithraism entering the church, which I will get into later. But again, How would Paul be able to overpower the church? HE COULD NOT DO SO.

"The first believers were called Judahites. At that time, there were two groups of Jews, the Judahites and the Edomites. The Edomites were hybrids and Cain's seed and had mixed with the Judahite Jews making up more notably the Pharisee branch.  Perverting and legalizing the Pentateuch i.e. Old Testament/Torah was of great importance to them and they kept its laws, keeping the sabbath and performing circumcision as a sign of the Covenant. Yet they tortured the legalisms of the law to benefit themselves in social status and wealth."

The subject of the serpent seed doctrine which this woman raises may be dealt with in an article in the future if the Lord Wills. The problem with her assertion is that the only Edomites found in the New Testament, the only Edomites to be found within it's pages were the family of Herod, who eventually died out, as prophesied by Obadiah. It is true that the Pharisees did exploit the Torah for their own ends, but not because they had intermarried with Edomites.

"This sect within the Judahites believed Jesus/Yahushua was the promised Messiah. He was not popular and incited much anger from the legalist Scribes and Pharisees because He had tried to make people aware of the real application and intent of the law of the Torah which had been watered down by the infiltrating alien hybrid and Edomite Jews and misapplied putting the people into bondage. The legalists had taken over and led the people into error and oppression while claiming it was the truths in the Torah law. They manipulated it and used it to benefit themselves, and Yahushua tried to lead the people back into the real intent and truths of the Torah provoking much wrath against Him for doing so.

     From the time Moses had received the laws from Yahweh, the entire Jewish social system had been laid down in the Torah. The Torah, among other things, states that all are equal and that no person may oppress or exploit another, that all have the right to be free and to be independent masters of their own fate. It was their Constitution and Bill of Rights.

     For instance, every person is entitled as a matter of right to social security.  This means that people are entitled to be supported by the community not only when they fall on hard times but also to maintain their independence as independent breadwinners for their families. For example, the community had to provide backup funds to those who needed them and they had to be provided as and when required. To prevent people being exploited through their need these funds had to be provided without charging interest and such loans were cancelled every seventh year if the borrower had been unable to repay them.

      The country's wealth and this applies particularly to productive capital, belongs to all equally and had to be shared among everyone. This equal and fair distribution of the community's wealth was to be updated at regular intervals.

       The role of those who were rich is seen to be that of administering their wealth and money on behalf of and for the community and not that of getting rich at the public’s expense.  

      The laws of the Torah (books of Moses) were to be followed and applied by the Judahites as a matter of law in their daily lives. However it was these laws the rich detested and had the intent of the laws changed to suit themselves thereby oppressing the people and getting rich off this oppression. Yahushua tried to reinstate the intent and purpose of the laws and have them applied correctly. This is why the rich and powerful rose up against Him and His teachings of the law.
 

      After Yahushua died and arose, His apostles continued in the example He had set, observing the feasts, the laws, and the Commandments. Nothing was to be changed. The sacrificial laws had been fulfilled with the ultimate sacrifice of the Son of the Most High, but the other laws of the Torah were to be observed. And this is where churchianity replaces and redefines the law with grace and begins outright disobedience to God's laws."

There is no doubt there were great benefits found within the Torah, No question about that and Jesus dealt swiftly with Pharisees misuse of the Torah and the addition of man made traditions that do not profit.

However, Shriner fails to mention the Acts 15 council actually allowed Paul to participate within the council and take a leading role.

"15 Certain people came down from Judea to Antioch and were teaching the believers: “Unless you are circumcised, according to the custom taught by Moses, you cannot be saved.” 2 This brought Paul and Barnabas into sharp dispute and debate with them. So Paul and Barnabas were appointed, along with some other believers, to go up to Jerusalem to see the apostles and elders about this question. 3 The church sent them on their way, and as they traveled through Phoenicia and Samaria, they told how the Gentiles had been converted. This news made all the believers very glad. 4 When they came to Jerusalem, they were welcomed by the church and the apostles and elders, to whom they reported everything God had done through them.
5 Then some of the believers who belonged to the party of the Pharisees stood up and said, “The Gentiles must be circumcised and required to keep the law of Moses.”
6 The apostles and elders met to consider this question. 7 After much discussion, Peter got up and addressed them: “Brothers, you know that some time ago God made a choice among you that the Gentiles might hear from my lips the message of the gospel and believe. 8 God, who knows the heart, showed that he accepted them by giving the Holy Spirit to them, just as he did to us. 9 He did not discriminate between us and them, for he purified their hearts by faith. 10 Now then, why do you try to test God by putting on the necks of Gentiles a yoke that neither we nor our ancestors have been able to bear? 11 No! We believe it is through the grace of our Lord Jesus that we are saved, just as they are.”
12 The whole assembly became silent as they listened to Barnabas and Paul telling about the signs and wonders God had done among the Gentiles through them. 13 When they finished, James spoke up. “Brothers,” he said, “listen to me. 14 Simon[a] has described to us how God first intervened to choose a people for his name from the Gentiles."

James then makes point about what the Gentiles should be observing and what they don't have to observe within the context of the passage, let's read on:

"12 The whole assembly became silent as they listened to Barnabas and Paul telling about the signs and wonders God had done among the Gentiles through them. 13 When they finished, James spoke up. “Brothers,” he said, “listen to me. 14 Simon[a] has described to us how God first intervened to choose a people for his name from the Gentiles. 15 The words of the prophets are in agreement with this, as it is written:

16 “‘After this I will return
    and rebuild David’s fallen tent.
Its ruins I will rebuild,
    and I will restore it,
17 that the rest of mankind may seek the Lord,
    even all the Gentiles who bear my name,
says the Lord, who does these things’[b]—
18     things known from long ago.[c]
19 “It is my judgment, therefore, that we should not make it difficult for the Gentiles who are turning to God. 20 Instead we should write to them, telling them to abstain from food polluted by idols, from sexual immorality, from the meat of strangled animals and from blood. 21 For the law of Moses has been preached in every city from the earliest times and is read in the synagogues on every Sabbath.”"

The letter was then sent to Antioch, Syria and Cilicia. But the letter's instructions would also be implemented in other Gentile congregations. Notice they not required by the apostles to keep certain feasts, dietary restrictions except the ones listed or even Sabbath in the contexts. So we see clearly that this is not merely a Pauline invention.

I would also direct you to this article here with respect to some of the observances, I cover certain aspects of Mosaic observance and I even cover Matthew 5:17-20 which is raised by one of her associates, mainly because of the abuse that stems from that text by many: http://answering-judaism.blogspot.co.uk/2013/11/observance-of-torah-demanded-of-gentiles.html.

It will also expose the inconsistency of some who demand Torah observance from Gentiles.

"    Most in the churches today believe that the Old Covenant, the Laws of the Torah and Moses were done away with after Yahushua arose from the dead. This isn't true.

       The New Covenant, the New Testament, transformed the Old Testament, it didn't abolish it. The two reconcile each other. The one doesn't replace the other. Some commands of the law were transformed by their fulfillment while others were superceded by the Words of Yahweh Himself. This was true in the Old Covenant also when Solomon’s Temple superceded the ancient tabernacle.  

   For instance, it was Yahushua's sacrifice that fulfilled the requirements of and for a sin offering. Other commands were re-prioritized instead of abolished. The Biblical Holy Days/Festivals (especially Passover) weren’t abolished but took on new meanings. If you wonder why we don’t stone people any more it’s because the penalties for our sins were executed already in Yahushua's death. So as you see, the New Covenant doesn’t abolish the Old Covenant, it upholds it! What still stands is clean and unclean foods, keeping the Sabbath, and other tenants of the laws that the churches have thrown out and ignored over time.  As believers it is our responsibility to let the Holy Spirit write the Old Covenant Laws on our hearts so that we know what to obey and how to obey it. He will guide and direct us.

     A lot of people feel a yearning today that they should be celebrating the feasts and moving away from abominable foods. This is by the Holy Spirit's guidance. Yahweh is trying to lead those who seek Him into the way they should go just as the New Covenant said would happen. We need to heed His Spirit and follow His guidance. It isn't a messianic vs. protestant vs. catholic thing, it's just being led by Him and following Him. Divisions and denominations aren't of Him when we are supposed to be unified as one. Leave the churches if they're not preaching and teaching His truths and follow Him yourself if you have to."

I have no problem with people observing the feasts if they feel they should, that's entirely up to them, I have made this point in my responses to Yisroel Blumenthal on these issues. What I have a problem with is those who demand it's observance from Gentiles. The apostles lead by the Holy Spirit, including Paul, said that the Gentiles didn't have to observe certain ordinances, but this doesn't mean that Jeremiah 31:31 is false at all.

Yes, the feasts took on new meanings and were fulfilled in Yeshua, but that doesn't mean Gentiles are to observe the feasts. I do agree that stoning is not carried out because of Yeshua's death and resurrection, I don't there will be disagreement on the death penalty fulfilled in the New Covenent.

Now, Luke was the one who wrote Acts as well as writing his Gospel, and I assume that Shriner accepts what Luke wrote, after all I know she doesn't like Paul.

But why does Luke have no problem with including Paul as a fellow believer and not an apostate. If Shriner is consistent, She would have to admit that Paul is a true believer and apostle, because if Acts is good enough to refute Paul, it's good enough to establish him.

Although the disciples accepted him as a fellow apostle and co-worker, Paul did not call himself the 13th Apostle, he never called himself that.

Also, 2 Peter establishes Paul as reliable, and If Shriner believes that Peter wrote it, she contradicts Peter by condemning Paul as a false prophet, especially in light of 2 Peter 3:14-16:

"14 So then, dear friends, since you are looking forward to this, make every effort to be found spotless, blameless and at peace with him. 15 Bear in mind that our Lord’s patience means salvation, just as our dear brother Paul also wrote you with the wisdom that God gave him. 16 He writes the same way in all his letters, speaking in them of these matters. His letters contain some things that are hard to understand, which ignorant and unstable people distort, as they do the other Scriptures, to their own destruction."

This is the same Peter who was rebuked by Paul, thus Shriner is actually going against the apostles for not recognising Paul as an apostle or even a fellow believer in Yeshua.

"· Yahushua's teaching at the Sermon on the Mount was not a new doctrine. It simply brought to light the true, deeper, spiritual meaning of the Old Covenant commands that He said are still valid.
·The entire Old Covenant Law teaches, as Yahushua did, that we are to love Yahweh by keeping His commandments.
· The Law came through Moses, but grace and truth came through Yahushua Ha Maschiyach.
·  Think of being "Not under Law" as not under legalistic observance of the Old Covenant with its Mosaic commands written in stone.
· Think of "under grace" as under the renewed covenant with the Mosaic commands written on our hearts by the Spirit who also provides us the strength (grace) we need to overcome the law of sin and death.
· The New Covenant still has the Old Covenant commands as its foundation. The difference is that now we have His Spirit to write those Laws on our hearts and empower us to obey.
· The festival commandments are important because in them we rehearse Yahweh’s plan of redemption. Since Yahweh’s plan of redemption isn’t complete there’s still much to learn from the feasts.
·  It was always Yahweh’s intent for us to have His Law (Torah) written on our hearts, thus providing empowerment and motivation from within.
· Men have always been saved by grace through faith. However, the error of the New Covenant believers at the beginning was in forcing the Gentiles to follow the letter of the Law to EARN salvation and justification apart from the work of FAITH. This matter was settled by the apostles in Jerusalem and as noted in Acts chapter one.
·  Note, when asked how to obtain eternal life, Yahushua didn’t say "Believe in me," he said obey the commandments [by implication, the Law of Moses]. Which goes beyond the 10 written in stone, there were originally over 600 of them covering social, dietary, financial, and everyday living.
· It was always Yahweh’s intent that Gentile believers remain ONE with their Jewish brothers. Satan entered and caused the division. The Spirit wants to bring unity. We must come back to HIM as ONE and stop the division and errors that has divided us over the centuries."

Again, WHERE did the disciples say that Gentiles were to observe the Torah, even implicitly. She cannot show from the apostles words. There are many things in the Torah that are good, as in the Nevim and Ketuvim, I even make this point in my writings to Yisroel Blumenthal. Though Jews and Gentiles are to be one in Christ, this doesn't mean we cannot differ over what foods we can eat, that is a given. Also, when you actually go to the case of what must one do to be saved, when Jesus was asked the same question by the rich ruler, The man claims to have kept all the commands, to which Jesus refutes because of his request to "sell all your possessions then come follow me". The man was exposed as an idolater because he loved his riches more than God.

Keeping the entire Mosaic Law is IMPOSSIBLE.

"Paul, then known as Saul, acting on behalf of the rich Jewish oppressors was a Jewish Edomite Pharisee who persecuted the Christians who were renewing their knowledge of the laws and the application of the laws in their daily lives.  Disrupting the status quo, the rich oppressors and legalists would have lost their foothold in making money off the poor if the laws were to change and be followed correctly.

     Paul said that he had had a `vision' and called himself a 
believer in Yahushua however he preached not for but against the social laws and against the social system of the Torah. He preached against material independence, against social security, against freedom from oppression and exploitation."

Where did Paul actually preach against "material independence, against social security, against freedom from oppression and exploitation"? SHE CANNOT SHOW IT, because it is NOT there.

Where did Paul condemn the social system? Paul exhorted the Gentile congregations to be holy and blameless before the Lord, but this again was not through the observance of Sabbath, Food Laws and not wearing two kinds of fabric. The funny thing is this witch fails to mention what happened AFTER Paul was called by Christ. Just read the very chapter of the vision she quoted. Take a look at what I have underlined and put in italics:

"9 Meanwhile, Saul was still breathing out murderous threats against the Lord’s disciples. He went to the high priest 2 and asked him for letters to the synagogues in Damascus, so that if he found any there who belonged to the Way, whether men or women, he might take them as prisoners to Jerusalem. 3 As he neared Damascus on his journey, suddenly a light from heaven flashed around him. 4 He fell to the ground and heard a voice say to him, “Saul, Saul, why do you persecute me?”

5 “Who are you, Lord?” Saul asked.

“I am Jesus, whom you are persecuting,” he replied. 6 “Now get up and go into the city, and you will be told what you must do.”

7 The men traveling with Saul stood there speechless; they heard the sound but did not see anyone. 8 Saul got up from the ground, but when he opened his eyes he could see nothing. So they led him by the hand into Damascus. 9 For three days he was blind, and did not eat or drink anything.

10 In Damascus there was a disciple named Ananias. The Lord called to him in a vision, “Ananias!”

“Yes, Lord,” he answered.

11 The Lord told him, “Go to the house of Judas on Straight Street and ask for a man from Tarsus named Saul, for he is praying. 12 In a vision he has seen a man named Ananias come and place his hands on him to restore his sight.

13 “Lord,” Ananias answered, “I have heard many reports about this man and all the harm he has done to your holy people in Jerusalem. 14 And he has come here with authority from the chief priests to arrest all who call on your name.”

15 But the Lord said to Ananias, “Go! This man is my chosen instrument to proclaim my name to the Gentiles and their kings and to the people of Israel. 16 I will show him how much he must suffer for my name.

17 Then Ananias went to the house and entered it. Placing his hands on Saul, he said, “Brother Saul, the Lord—Jesus, who appeared to you on the road as you were coming here—has sent me so that you may see again and be filled with the Holy Spirit.” 18 Immediately, something like scales fell from Saul’s eyes, and he could see again. He got up and was baptized, 19 and after taking some food, he regained his strength."

Notice it was NOT just Paul who claimed to be an apostle, ANANIAS is told BY Jesus to go to Paul and SEND HIM TO THE GENTILES.

Again, if Acts is good enough to refute Paul, it's good enough to establish him, Shriner cannot have it both ways, That sorceress cannot appeal to Acts to prove her case and reject it if it disagrees with her. If she doesn't agree that Paul is a true apostle and believer, she should reject Acts as an argument against Paul.

"    As Edomite Hillel had infiltrated and changed the Talmud to blindside the Jews to accept oppression, Paul infiltrated the sect of the believers and tried to undo what Yahushua and his followers had done, while using the name of Yahweh  to do it. Saul had been tutored by Gamaliel, Hillel's grandson. Both had managed to master the art of deception and lead the people of their time away from the truth of the laws and into oppression.

     Paul preached a political ideology to subvert the people and be able to exploit them without hindrance to the status quo. Under the true laws, exploitation was forbidden, but without the laws being applied, the rich could continue to get rich off of the exploitation of the poor. And that's what they did."

Paul acted in ignorance, he made this plain in his own letters. For that matter, Acts already establishes that JESUS SENT PAUL to the Gentile nations after the encounter on the Damascus road. Plus the Talmud didn't exist in the time of Jesus, it post dates him by centuries, the exact number escapes my mind. Where is she getting this idea that Paul is subverting the people and exploiting them?

" The Laws of the Torah gave the people freedom from oppression and exploitation. And every time they wandered away from the laws, they ended up oppressed and exploited, and back into slavery. Much of the same way we as Americans are today. Our government exploits and makes money off the people by unnecessary and inflated taxation, also through exploitive legislation where the rich can become richer, and the poor get poorer. These practices are outlawed in the social system laws of the Torah. Neither has the wealth of America ever been divided out and shared among its people. Our loans are loaded with interest, and there is never forgiveness from unpaid loans. There is freedom in the laws of God while there is slavery, exploitation and manipulation in the laws of man.

   It was Paul's teachings against the laws of Yahweh that brought him into conflict with the Judahite believers. The entire area of Asia rejected him. In Revelation the church of Ephesus was praised for recognizing false prophets, yet Paul wrote a letter to the Ephesians as if they were his followers. He could get no where with the Judahite  Jews, so he concentrated on gaining converts from gentiles (people who are not (Judahite or Israelite) and who presumably knew nothing or little about the laws of the Torah and who would thus be more likely to follow his teachings without arguing about its content or aware of his deceptions."

Christ's bride the church was not to be a state religion to begin with. In fact Christians in the days of the apostles never sought this, not even the apostles themselves did such. There were cases in history where the church tried to have a state religion, but this FAILED. It would be nice if she provided a reference regarding the rejection of Paul by Asia. Also, Jesus was not even warning the Ephesians about Paul, Paul was already established as a follower of Christ in Acts 9 not to mention at the time Revelation was penned, Paul was already dead, he died by execution.

" Paul's letters (epistles) are the oldest part of the New Testament.  It seems that Paul's letters were written about 50 AD and the gospels about 70-100 AD. Paul's letters were never accepted by the early church. The Apostles never mentioned him in their writings, only he includes some of them in his. Yet today our New Testament, configured by a pagan, is dominant with Paul's teachings.

   What stands out is that no one before Paul wrote such letters and 
taught such things as he did, and no one did so afterwards. His letters give his own point of view and personal ideology and he gives them an authority which they would not otherwise have had by means of a self-proclaimed vision."

What is funny is again, this conniver fails to mention that 2 Peter mentions Paul, that issue I have already covered. I would also like to know who in the early church rejected Paul. The Ebionites don't count because they are of the SECOND CENTURY and In an article, Keith Thompson has spoken on their untrustworthiness and lack of reliability. Scroll down to Section 2 on the subject of the Ebionites: http://www.answering-islam.org/authors/thompson/paul-historical.html

I thoroughly recommend this article for you guys to read. Though it is geared towards Islam, It will also be helpful in your study in dealing with Shriner's apostate teachings about Paul.

"The gospels as a whole relate to the life and death of Yahushua but Paul's letters seem to be more a vehicle for pronouncements directed against observance of laws ensuring freedom, independence and equality.

      It was the rejected Paul's teachings that were accepted and placed in dominance after 300 years of persecutions wiped out the early church. Even today the Gentile Christians' stories about the beginning of Christianity differ from those of the Judahite Christians. It is the versions of the Gentile Christians which were included in the Christian Canon and became official doctrine. The Torah, Feasts, and Commandments were replaced by the laws of laziness and lawlessness.
    

     There is much to be revealed about Paul and you can read more about how he infiltrated and deceived early believers at (I am not linking to her site)   But was there even a more hideous agenda to Paul than to subvert people away from the teachings of Yahushua and His apostles?"

Genuine Christianity may not observe certain things in the Torah, but it doesn't encourage laziness and lawlessness, I have already covered the subject of what we are able to observe. Let's see what Paul, whom this witch anathematizes, said with respect to holiness:

"Titus 2:11 For the grace of God has appeared that offers salvation to all people. 12 It teaches us to say “No” to ungodliness and worldly passions, and to live self-controlled, upright and godly lives in this present age, 13 while we wait for the blessed hope—the appearing of the glory of our great God and Savior, Jesus Christ, 14 who gave himself for us to redeem us from all wickedness and to purify for himself a people that are his very own, eager to do what is good."

"Romans 6 What shall we say, then? Shall we go on sinning so that grace may increase? 2 By no means! We are those who have died to sin; how can we live in it any longer? 3 Or don’t you know that all of us who were baptized into Christ Jesus were baptized into his death? 4 We were therefore buried with him through baptism into death in order that, just as Christ was raised from the dead through the glory of the Father, we too may live a new life.

5 For if we have been united with him in a death like his, we will certainly also be united with him in a resurrection like his. 6 For we know that our old self was crucified with him so that the body ruled by sin might be done away with,[a] that we should no longer be slaves to sin— 7 because anyone who has died has been set free from sin.

8 Now if we died with Christ, we believe that we will also live with him. 9 For we know that since Christ was raised from the dead, he cannot die again; death no longer has mastery over him. 10 The death he died, he died to sin once for all; but the life he lives, he lives to God.

11 In the same way, count yourselves dead to sin but alive to God in Christ Jesus. 12 Therefore do not let sin reign in your mortal body so that you obey its evil desires. 13 Do not offer any part of yourself to sin as an instrument of wickedness, but rather offer yourselves to God as those who have been brought from death to life; and offer every part of yourself to him as an instrument of righteousness. 14 For sin shall no longer be your master, because you are not under the law, but under grace."

"Ephesians 4:17 So I tell you this, and insist on it in the Lord, that you must no longer live as the Gentiles do, in the futility of their thinking. 18 They are darkened in their understanding and separated from the life of God because of the ignorance that is in them due to the hardening of their hearts. 19 Having lost all sensitivity, they have given themselves over to sensuality so as to indulge in every kind of impurity, and they are full of greed.

20 That, however, is not the way of life you learned 21 when you heard about Christ and were taught in him in accordance with the truth that is in Jesus. 22 You were taught, with regard to your former way of life, to put off your old self, which is being corrupted by its deceitful desires; 23 to be made new in the attitude of your minds; 24 and to put on the new self, created to be like God in true righteousness and holiness.

25 Therefore each of you must put off falsehood and speak truthfully to your neighbor, for we are all members of one body. 26 “In your anger do not sin”[d]: Do not let the sun go down while you are still angry, 27 and do not give the devil a foothold. 28 Anyone who has been stealing must steal no longer, but must work, doing something useful with their own hands, that they may have something to share with those in need.

29 Do not let any unwholesome talk come out of your mouths, but only what is helpful for building others up according to their needs, that it may benefit those who listen. 30 And do not grieve the Holy Spirit of God, with whom you were sealed for the day of redemption. 31 Get rid of all bitterness, rage and anger, brawling and slander, along with every form of malice. 32 Be kind and compassionate to one another, forgiving each other, just as in Christ God forgave you."

"Colossians 3 Since, then, you have been raised with Christ, set your hearts on things above, where Christ is, seated at the right hand of God. 2 Set your minds on things above, not on earthly things. 3 For you died, and your life is now hidden with Christ in God. 4 When Christ, who is your[a] life, appears, then you also will appear with him in glory.

5 Put to death, therefore, whatever belongs to your earthly nature: sexual immorality, impurity, lust, evil desires and greed, which is idolatry. 6 Because of these, the wrath of God is coming.[b] 7 You used to walk in these ways, in the life you once lived. 8 But now you must also rid yourselves of all such things as these: anger, rage, malice, slander, and filthy language from your lips. 9 Do not lie to each other, since you have taken off your old self with its practices 10 and have put on the new self, which is being renewed in knowledge in the image of its Creator. 11 Here there is no Gentile or Jew, circumcised or uncircumcised, barbarian, Scythian, slave or free, but Christ is all, and is in all."

"2 Thessalonians 3:6 In the name of the Lord Jesus Christ, we command you, brothers and sisters, to keep away from every believer who is idle and disruptive and does not live according to the teaching[a] you received from us. 7 For you yourselves know how you ought to follow our example. We were not idle when we were with you, 8 nor did we eat anyone’s food without paying for it. On the contrary, we worked night and day, laboring and toiling so that we would not be a burden to any of you. 9 We did this, not because we do not have the right to such help, but in order to offer ourselves as a model for you to imitate. 10 For even when we were with you, we gave you this rule: “The one who is unwilling to work shall not eat.”"

I could go on, but I think one get's the picture. This is from the Christian Canon that that she-witch decries.

I shall continue if the Lord wills refuting the points in the article she has written.

Answering Judaism.

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  1. I have to say I'm totally astounded by all this. I have spent the last 35 years teaching the Scriptures. I have a degree in theology and also an MDiv. Sherry Schreiner is a whack job for sure. Obviously she has never in her life appear to have understood the difference between Isegesis and exegesis. It's actually comical to see her multiple personalities come out in the stuff that I've read so far she's probably one of the most mentally disturbed people I've ever read about on the internet. What I don't understand is why people actually listen to her and even take her seriously. You can tell when she's off her meds. But at any rate she doesn't know anything at all about biblical exposition. I do have to be honest your refutation of her is not that great either I suggest you go back and take a look at what Scripture actually teaches in its context and employ the principles of hermeneutics if you're going to defend yourself. Let me give you a good example . Jesus never said he was going to build his church on Peter, he was merely saying that he was going to buildt his church on the testimony of what Peter had said. Which is Jesus is the Christ the Son of the living God. Even Jesus explained to him that what he just said came from the Holy Spirit. That is first year of Bible College stuff. Appreciate the fact that you want to refute this nut ball but if I were you I wouldn't even waste my time on her. She is obviously not a believer but a real wacho off her meds. Don't waste your time on her. She need salvation. You might want to just preach the gospel to her I bet she's never even heard of it

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    1. She definitely needs the Gospel indeed. I do not want to see her go to hell.

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  2. I agree brother. All I'm saying is that even though she sounds like a whack job she still needs to understand scriptures and she's showing that she doesn't understand anything about the Bible . No one here saying that she needs to go to hell or anything, I guess what I should've said was that her explanation of things shows that the Holy Spirit is not in her to illuminate her mind to understand the Scriptures as well as being illiterate concerning biblical exegesis. If your plans are to help her I would start out with praying and then simply just ask her about the Gospel she obviously doesn't believe that Jesus is God I read some of her stuff . But I have to admit it's probably simple on my part but when I read it I read it to be amused honestly . But you are right she needs the gospel and I pray that you help her.

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  3. Thank you...I was really troubled about the orgone and feasts and Sabbath..it tore me up for a few yrs. ..now I'm hearing about her again and feeling troubled again

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  4. I have enjoyed reading this! But we must not call each other names...I don't think any of us TRULY have all the facts straight and many of us are crawling in the dark really, instead of being the experts on Jesus like many of us think we are. We need to humbly admit this and pray for each other and discuss and debate in love. Sherry Shriner is not a Witch and it is no one on the Earth's place to say that she was not saved. I read everything without judging and take things into ponder and consideration. Many things she said helped me to understand the Bible better as realistic, unlike the way out there Sunday school bible stories I was told that sounded hilarious and ridiculous. Regardless of all the little facts, believing by Faith and inviting Jesus to forgive us for our sins and into our hearts is really the jist of it....most people are not even bothering to look for the truth about God. To accept Christ, love God and love each other, period. The rest we will find out when God deems it time.

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